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Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

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jacques_chester wrote: post #162

If you are an Australian software engineer, you have one advantage that other nationalities do not: the E3 visa. It is a US working visa that is specifically reserved for Australians and consequently it is much easier to get than an H1B. My advice is that the Australian tech industry just got nuked from orbit, so come work in the USA. The pay is better, the work is more interesting and the tech companies actually hav…

I've heard this from a number of reliable sources (friends in the industry based in TX and other places). Absolutely considering the leap as soon as is feasible

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brokenmachine wrote: post #126
nickcox wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is an absolute national shame. MSF recently likened the mental health of the people on Nauru to victims of torture.[1] The most disturbing aspect is the strong bipartisan and public support for the ongoing abuse. Every Australian should wake up in the morning, take a long hard look in the mirror and ask themselves if they're proud of what they've become. [1] https://www.msf.org.au/article/statements-opinion/indefi…

>The most disturbing aspect is the strong bipartisan and public support for the ongoing abuse. Is there really public support? Everyone I've talked to thinks it's a disgrace.

There have been slightly more encouraging signs recently that the tides are shifting, at least in my view. The rinsing the state Liberals got in Victoria after desperately pushing the openly racist and patently false "African youths are all gang members and everyone is afraid of being robbed" rhetoric, as well as the uptick in general awareness and number of protests makes me hope the publics apathy is morphing into a deep national shame.

That being said being a "coastal elite" in a progressive area isn't necessarily a good litmus test

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Post by alfiedotwtf »

cyphar wrote: post #340
manicdee wrote: post #306

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Noting that you can’t seek legal advice because you’re not allowed to talk to anyone about the request.

Obviously the section on disclosure doesn't involve talking to your own legal representation (there is common law on this already). But even if there wasn't common law covering this it's explicitly allowed in Sect 317ZF.3e. You can even reveal it in a legal proceeding under Sect 317ZF.3b. Australia may be leading the path toward a Kafka-esque state but we're not there yet.

Please note that disclosure for legal advice was not in the first reading, but added later.

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Post by alfiedotwtf »

bigiain wrote: post #119
neotek wrote: post #56

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This immensely stupid law applies to any business that operates in Australia, which includes Google, Apple, Microsoft, Samsung, Facebook, Github, and every other major tech company on the planet. If they want to continue doing business in Australia (and they very much do) then they'll be forced to comply, which means everybody in the world is negatively affected by this insanity.

Cutting loose ~25million potential customers might actually be a financially rational for some companies. It's not like we here in Australia are really a very big market on the global stage... Won't surprise me at all to find some businesses (like perhaps Whisper Systems) who's "doing business in Australia" doesn't actually earn them a single cent, yet will open them up to enormous reputational damage if they continu…

Please don't turn off updates. You're going to miss out on exploit fixes, which puts you in a worse position.

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Post by rmbeard »

sn41 wrote: post #245
jacques_chester wrote: post #162

If you are an Australian software engineer, you have one advantage that other nationalities do not: the E3 visa. It is a US working visa that is specifically reserved for Australians and consequently it is much easier to get than an H1B. My advice is that the Australian tech industry just got nuked from orbit, so come work in the USA. The pay is better, the work is more interesting and the tech companies actually hav…

I am not sure that migrating will help. If I read the bill right, it implies that every person providing any service used (or "likely to be used") in Australia is under legal obligation to insert these backdoors. I don't think it specifically mentions software developed in Australia. The bill seems to be a nightmare - it even says that the technical assistance request can be given orally. What the bloody ....? To me,…

Just geoblock Australia.
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