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Re: Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse

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Post by privong » Wed, Dec 12, 2018, 6:45 PM UTC

jospoortvliet wrote: post #120

privong wrote: post #95

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> That is like saying ice cream makers should focus on the 'core' tastes, claiming that that is banana and vanilla because you like those. From my point of view, I'm suggesting the ice cream makers should stop trying to make paninis to go with the ice cream and instead focus on making sure the ice cream cones don't have holes in the bottom. I nearly lost all my files because server-side encryption went wonky. That's…

All for avoiding Panini's, but we're a Content Collaboration Platform - and Nextcloud Social fits certainly well in that. WRT server-side encryption, it gets work all the time, though it is mostly an enterprise feature that gets love when enterprises pay for that. Very few volunteers work on it, if any. Help is of course welcome, in the end - either somebody pays for it, or somebody puts in free time. This is true fo…

Okay, that makes sense and makes me feel better about it. Thanks for responding and clarifying.

Re: Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse

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Post by hodyroff » Wed, Dec 12, 2018, 7:52 PM UTC

jospoortvliet wrote: post #113

guruz wrote: post #108

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It would be more fair to compare the LATEST Nextcloud with the LATEST ownCloud. Both projects are going strong! Nextcloud is more community-focused, ownCloud is more enterprisey.

Hi Markus, I'd argue the opposite, actually, ownCloud is betting on providing hosting for small and medium businesses, while Nextcloud targets large businesses. And that is what reality shows. Nextcloud has far larger customers than ownCloud, which breaks down at instances over 50K users. The only large-ish oC setup is actually a bunch of separate universities. Nextcloud is far more scalable. Thanks to Global Scale,…

Hello Jos, more facts less fiction please. The largest known and named deployment is still Digilocker with ownCloud, which has over 16 million users (https://digilocker.gov.in/), and yes, it‘s a single instance. You claim the fork’s largest deployment has „over 20 million users“ umm „tens of millions of users“ which installation is that again?

German government cloud is still in development, isn't it? Really 300k active users?

If you have so many large customers, why don’t you put them on your website? Of course there are always some customers that don’t like to be mentioned, but all the once you seem to have?! ownCloud reference customers can be checked here: https://owncloud.com/customers/ Those large customers are mostly enterprises, not universities. At the same time we are proud about our market leadership in the educational market worldwide!

Obviously Nextcloud is more community-focused, ownCloud is more enterprise and focusing on file sync and share and content collaboration. The customer lists prove it and you proved it once again by releasing a non-enterprise ready but feature-focused alpha with a lack of quality assurance.

Please see the comments above by your users and help those, instead of spreading FUD about ownCloud.

Re: Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse

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Post by fbartels » Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 8:10 AM UTC

jospoortvliet wrote: post #117

the_common_man wrote: post #99

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Similar situation with LDAP as well. The first login of a new user results in a crash. They haven't fixed this issue in 3 months.

Sorry to hear it broke. Try logging a support ticket on portal.nextcloud.com. LDAP is an enterprise feature so it is an area where we strongly focus on customers and their issues first, and if none of our customers experience this problem it can take a long time to get resolved as we're always very busy...

My guess he is referring to https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/12693, which sits there as a pr for 16 days now (even though it was opened from one of the nextcloud core team afaik).

Re: Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse

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Post by bayesian_horse » Wed, Dec 19, 2018, 9:08 AM UTC

jospoortvliet wrote: post #116

bayesian_horse wrote: post #90

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I had to deploy Nextcloud at work for a couple dozen users and it was a nightmare. There was zero response to any bug reports / questions I had. I even tried to get commercial support, and they wouldn't answer. The client is effectively a black box, and we can't even get synchronization to work correctly. Some of it certainly is the fault of me or the users. But some of it probably isn't, and it's hard to tell the di…

Hi, Sorry to hear about the bad experience, that shouldn't happen. We explicitly design Nextcloud to be seamless for small installations like yours - but if you need support, you can simply purchase it directly on https://nextcloud.com/enterprise/buy/ so you don't need to wait for sales people. We'll fix your issues for sure. Keep in mind: using a bog-standard LAMP stack is your best bet, but you can always add the 1…

Oh, I can totally recommend to my boss forking out at least 2000€ for commercial support by people who take two weeks to respond to any sales requests without knowing if these problems are actually fixable...