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Re: Ask HN: What's the best book on modern UI/UX?

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(For background, I'm a faculty at Carnegie Mellon University in the Human-Computer Interaction Institute) For best books, it depends on if you want to understand users or do implementation. But generally, I'd highly recommend Don Norman's The Design of Everyday Things to improve how you look at the world, and Steve Krug's Don't Make Me Think for simple and practical design tips. For tools, the best is paper prototypi…

If I may offer a contrarian viewpoint, I very much disliked Norman's book. I'm no UX professional, but I was looking for a pragmatic guide to understanding design and instead I was put off by his condescending tone and typecasting of engineers as somehow being innately unable to understand users. That was especially true of the earlier chapters of the book that were apparently first published in the original early '90s edition. The newly added chapters in the newer edition are more level-headed in that regard. Seeing how strongly this book was recommended in certain quarters left me uncomfortable and seemed to somewhat explain the general mentality pervading certain narratives that somehow it's best not to have engineers be involved in UX design but rather leave that to "professional" UX designers.

If you haven't guessed already, my background is engineering. So you read from that what you want, but I've crossed paths with a very large number of engineers who dismissed or diminished their own ability to form judgement on UX because of a general sense that the "consensus" was that engineers aren't good at that, and have seen several cases where the decision model in organizations was specifically tailored to tune out engineers from UX decisions. Both of these things are wrong from my pov. I certainly don't want to diminish the value of having UX as a specialization. However, I cannot recommend a title whose narrative champions one set of professionals at the expense of others.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best book on modern UI/UX?

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Many of the key designers moving interaction design forward are not publishing books, rather their corporate style guides are a better representation of their philosophy and method. Design has always been short on useful publications because it is a rapidly developing field that publishers often fear it has no shelf life. If you want to learn interaction design it's best done with a bit of dedicated cooperation and e…

I second this. The leading edge in HCI is in VR. Imaging the new degrees of freedom from popping menus around in 3-space leads to challenges. What happens to that menu then when your avatar does a cartwheel across the battlefield. Or, how do you deal with an impenetrable, protective capsule around you character when he/she draws their sword. Is it one-way? How do you even show the capsule? How does the character get…

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Re: Ask HN: What's the best book on modern UI/UX?

#104

(For background, I'm a faculty at Carnegie Mellon University in the Human-Computer Interaction Institute) For best books, it depends on if you want to understand users or do implementation. But generally, I'd highly recommend Don Norman's The Design of Everyday Things to improve how you look at the world, and Steve Krug's Don't Make Me Think for simple and practical design tips. For tools, the best is paper prototypi…

If I may offer a contrarian viewpoint, I very much disliked Norman's book. I'm no UX professional, but I was looking for a pragmatic guide to understanding design and instead I was put off by his condescending tone and typecasting of engineers as somehow being innately unable to understand users. That was especially true of the earlier chapters of the book that were apparently first published in the original early '9…

That's a very interesting view, as Norman had an engineering background himself. I didn't notice that tone myself, but that doesn't mean you're wrong.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best book on modern UI/UX?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are any of those prototyping tools open source and free?

Design of Everyday Things & Don't Make Me Think are both likely to be in your employer's library, or on a co-worker's shelf. Not quite free, but I bet you can find a hard-copy to borrow.

Or in your local public library, which is quite free. :)

Re: Ask HN: What's the best book on modern UI/UX?

#106

(For background, I'm a faculty at Carnegie Mellon University in the Human-Computer Interaction Institute) For best books, it depends on if you want to understand users or do implementation. But generally, I'd highly recommend Don Norman's The Design of Everyday Things to improve how you look at the world, and Steve Krug's Don't Make Me Think for simple and practical design tips. For tools, the best is paper prototypi…

I can attest to those two books being fantastic resources on UI/UX design. They're the only two books I've read on the matter and I'm consistently praised as one of the more user experience focused engineers in any team I work on.

Although, I can't walk through half the doors in the world it seems without going "why the hell does this pull door have a push handle!!", so there is that side effect.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best book on modern UI/UX?

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(For background, I'm a faculty at Carnegie Mellon University in the Human-Computer Interaction Institute) For best books, it depends on if you want to understand users or do implementation. But generally, I'd highly recommend Don Norman's The Design of Everyday Things to improve how you look at the world, and Steve Krug's Don't Make Me Think for simple and practical design tips. For tools, the best is paper prototypi…

If I may offer a contrarian viewpoint, I very much disliked Norman's book. I'm no UX professional, but I was looking for a pragmatic guide to understanding design and instead I was put off by his condescending tone and typecasting of engineers as somehow being innately unable to understand users. That was especially true of the earlier chapters of the book that were apparently first published in the original early '9…

I'm going to offer a contrarian contrarian viewpoint. I certainly agree that engineers should not be shut out of the process, by default. There are some engineers who are good at UI design, like you and me, and their deep technical knowledge helps them invent unique solutions. However most engineers aren't and I wouldn't expect them to be either. I went out of my way to learn UI design and psychology, but most engineers don't do that which makes it tough for them to provide useful feedback, insights, etc. So I understand why some people don't want engineers involved.

Just last week, I had the very first design meeting for a new project and a veteran engineer was invited. He didn't even let the presenter finish before talking about how the backend should be built and how much time it would take. That wasn't helpful.

I think engineers who are good at design are immensely valuable, but most engineers suck at it.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best book on modern UI/UX?

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I think the best actionable UI advice is: https://refactoringui.com/ If you like the design tips, they just released their full-length book a few days ago!

Ironically from the same author: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18614071

Re: Ask HN: What's the best book on modern UI/UX?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don Norman's book The Design of Everyday Things has indeed altered how I look at the world from a design perspective. It teaches you design awareness, and you'll find yourself noticing and understanding design elements all around you, that you didn't before. Even though it might seem a little old, the information presented in there is timeless, so I highly recommend it as well. It is in fact the first book I would su…

That book made me start getting annoyed at bad design like Norman Doors (doors that require a "push" or "pull" label instead of being intuitive).

Cars for me. Why is it that a car is designed in a way that if someone sneezes at a bad time then there will be an accident? I also think you should be able to see all the parts needed to operate the car (petals)

Re: Ask HN: What's the best book on modern UI/UX?

#110

(For background, I'm a faculty at Carnegie Mellon University in the Human-Computer Interaction Institute) For best books, it depends on if you want to understand users or do implementation. But generally, I'd highly recommend Don Norman's The Design of Everyday Things to improve how you look at the world, and Steve Krug's Don't Make Me Think for simple and practical design tips. For tools, the best is paper prototypi…

Weird question, but why is there so much bad UI out there? Do you feel like you've failed as a field when commonly used applications like Gmail and adobe reader have such bad user experiences?
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