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Re: Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse

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I have been using NC for a few years now and I am mostly happy with it. Contacts, calendars, sharing, photo auto uploads all work with my Android phone.

My problem is the software is pretty slow and from a security perspective I'd be hesitant to expose it to the greater internet. That's just my gut feeling.

Re: Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse

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Instances that don't police this get silenced or defederated. Much of the fediverse is made up of small invite-only instances that share information on bad actors like this. The bigger ones have mod teams and are generally run by people who don't equivocate on keeping bad actors to protect ad revenue. edit: This is, at a minimum, a good experiment to see if these kinds of propaganda are inherent to social media or on…

That's a start, but my concern is that the volunteer militia will get swamped and burnt out when the real attacks come. Right now Mastodon and other ActivityPub platforms are too small for a Cambridge Analytica / Russian FSB or other similar caliber actors to bother with. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc. are where most of the users are so that's where most of the effort will go. If these platforms ever "tip" into m…

I find that argument silly.

I have found this silly WRT "there are no viruses for Linux because no-one uses Linux" too.

If it is small, the attack is going to be much cheaper too. You don't need 24/7 active armies of trolls, you need one, maybe two parttimers to attack a small mastodon service.

My argument is that at all moments the attackers will weight benefits and costs. Currently, apparently, the costs to infiltrate, spread fake-news, or troll is too high.

This is caused by both the size of the attacked community (the benefits to the attackers are low) but mostly due to the attack being hard enough to not implement it.

Re: Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse

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The personal issue I have with ownCloud / Nextcloud, is that I simply don't trust the technical competence of the developers, who picked PHP as the most suitable programming language for a multi-platform network-intensive application in 2010. There were simply no technical reasons for doing this – and there are still none.

Re: Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse

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End user of NC here, have it setup on a little Digital Ocean droplet. I switched from OwnCloud shortly after the fork, and sync contacts/calendar/notes between my desktop and android. Pleasantly surprised with how well things work. My favorite thing to do is upload a short video from my phone, and send my family the share link. Much better than uploading to YouTube / Facebook. I also do photography, and love how easy…

I started using NC for docs and calendar. Really happy with it. things work great and sharing things via links works great. Especially like how you can add expiry to shared links.

Re: Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse

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This. Their sync on android sucks big time. I go to my gallery, select 20 pictures and send them to Nextcloud, only to find only 5 of them have been actually uploaded. It happens every.single.time. Gonna switch to Seafile really soon.

Can't confirm this experience. I have auto-upload enabled, and I've never had any issues with my pictures not syncing. Did you check the upload status on your phone during this time? Pictures can get very heavy, and it might just need more WiFi time to upload 20 of them.

Their auto upload on Android doesn't work properly. On iOS they offer initial upload of all files, on Android it doesn't happen.

Re: Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse

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Because if they were competent they wouldn't be a group of ex-KDE developers working on a PHP dinosaur of spaghetti code.

Many of your posts so far have been breaking the guidelines. We ban accounts that won't comment civilly and substantively.

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Re: Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse

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Sounds great, but honestly I hoped that federated calls would finally make it...

I mean, Federation is a core feature of Nextcloud and instead of finishing the work on Talk, we have a second (probably similarly incomplete) feature now, which needs to be polished for the next major releases.

I don't want to be negative here.

I love Nextcloud and the work that is being done around it! It is just that sometimes I wonder about the priorities and in this case, I wish improving existing things would have come before introducing new things.

Besides that, I am quite excited to try out the new social features :-)

Re: Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse

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How about a working, documented plugin API? Or sync clients that work ? Instead of taping more random crap onto a base product that only barely works?

I was all excited to set up Next loud on my Raspberry PI. Got it up and working and then I found out that it doesn't do two-way sync, which was what I was hoping to use it for.

I wholeheartedly agree that they should focus on more important features.

Re: Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse

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These extra features and thus the complexity are the opposite of what I'd like in a self-hosted file share system. Why does everything have to be bloated into oblivion like this. We need more purpose built software... What i like? OpenBSD for firewalls, and public facing terminal servers. Just lovely. /rant.

Most of those features are optional. So if you don't care about some functionality just uninstall the specific 'App'. Sure that is not as secure as not having those Apps in the first place, but I think, in general, Nextcloud is moving into the right direction, as many of their use-cases require a tightly integrated but wide set of features.
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