Ugh I just wanted a working file manager
Agreed. All this added complexity only serves to increase the attack surface of something I really want to keep safe and secure.
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#12These extra features and thus the complexity are the opposite of what I'd like in a self-hosted file share system.
Why does everything have to be bloated into oblivion like this. We need more purpose built software...
What i like? OpenBSD for firewalls, and public facing terminal servers. Just lovely.
/rant.
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Because if they were competent they wouldn't be a group of ex-KDE developers working on a PHP dinosaur of spaghetti code.
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#14How about a working, documented plugin API? Or sync clients that work ? Instead of taping more random crap onto a base product that only barely works?
This. Their sync on android sucks big time. I go to my gallery, select 20 pictures and send them to Nextcloud, only to find only 5 of them have been actually uploaded. It happens every.single.time. Gonna switch to Seafile really soon.
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#15How about a working, documented plugin API? Or sync clients that work ? Instead of taping more random crap onto a base product that only barely works?
This. Their sync on android sucks big time. I go to my gallery, select 20 pictures and send them to Nextcloud, only to find only 5 of them have been actually uploaded. It happens every.single.time. Gonna switch to Seafile really soon.
interestingly, that was my experience using google's own image sync on ios and android as well (a few years back, to be sure).
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#16How about a working, documented plugin API? Or sync clients that work ? Instead of taping more random crap onto a base product that only barely works?
This. Their sync on android sucks big time. I go to my gallery, select 20 pictures and send them to Nextcloud, only to find only 5 of them have been actually uploaded. It happens every.single.time. Gonna switch to Seafile really soon.
Can't confirm this experience. I have auto-upload enabled, and I've never had any issues with my pictures not syncing. Did you check the upload status on your phone during this time? Pictures can get very heavy, and it might just need more WiFi time to upload 20 of them.
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#17How about a working, documented plugin API? Or sync clients that work ? Instead of taping more random crap onto a base product that only barely works?
This. Their sync on android sucks big time. I go to my gallery, select 20 pictures and send them to Nextcloud, only to find only 5 of them have been actually uploaded. It happens every.single.time. Gonna switch to Seafile really soon.
A possible cause is that not all file systems support the same character sets in paths, so syncing can fail due to invalid names. In this syncthing issue, someone mentions that e.g. Hangouts inserts colons in image names: https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing/issues/1734#issuecomm...
Maybe Seafile somehow found a good solution that doesn't cause breakage in other places. Any specific reason you want to switch to them?
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#18NextCloud, ForgeFed, ValueFlows, MoodleNet, Pleroma, Mastodon, PixelFed ("soon"), PeerTube, WriteFreely, Anancus... (so many more) The ActivityPub grassroots is slowly growing.
How will these systems defend against spam, click farms, troll armies, and AI assisted or powered sock puppeting when they get big and/or influential?
This is usually what kills federated and decentralized communication platforms. They can work fine as long as they are too niche for bad actors to target, but as soon as there is money to be made or political influence to be had from targeting them they are destroyed by abuse.
It's a major threat for the centralized platforms, and those are easier to defend.
Today's Internet is a battlefield in a global information war and new systems must be designed accordingly. Unfortunately most efforts that I see in these areas still make optimistic assumptions and underestimate the sophistication and determination of bad actors.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
This. Their sync on android sucks big time. I go to my gallery, select 20 pictures and send them to Nextcloud, only to find only 5 of them have been actually uploaded. It happens every.single.time. Gonna switch to Seafile really soon.
Can't confirm this experience. I have auto-upload enabled, and I've never had any issues with my pictures not syncing. Did you check the upload status on your phone during this time? Pictures can get very heavy, and it might just need more WiFi time to upload 20 of them.
I also have auto-upload enabled, and syncing works perfectly whether I am on the same network or an outside network.
Perhaps the grandparent commentor is using an older version of the android client or server?
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#20NextCloud, ForgeFed, ValueFlows, MoodleNet, Pleroma, Mastodon, PixelFed ("soon"), PeerTube, WriteFreely, Anancus... (so many more) The ActivityPub grassroots is slowly growing.
How will these systems defend against spam, click farms, troll armies, and AI assisted or powered sock puppeting when they get big and/or influential? This is usually what kills federated and decentralized communication platforms. They can work fine as long as they are too niche for bad actors to target, but as soon as there is money to be made or political influence to be had from targeting them they are destroyed b…
Instances that don't police this get silenced or defederated. Much of the fediverse is made up of small invite-only instances that share information on bad actors like this. The bigger ones have mod teams and are generally run by people who don't equivocate on keeping bad actors to protect ad revenue.
edit: This is, at a minimum, a good experiment to see if these kinds of propaganda are inherent to social media or only possible because ad-funded silos are loathe to ban obvious bad actors and not enable them with their tools.
I'm on the side of blaming Facebook and Twitter. They didn't create propaganda, but they sure did make it cheap and easy.