Sine when China has become one of USA's 50 states?
Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver
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Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver
#652Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can still be held responsible. The law requires you to check on who the final customer is and to take some actions on any suspicious transaction. Someone will come knocking on your door and you will need to show documentation to support your assertion that you "couldn't have known". If a product is subject to a trade embargo you can't just "sell it to a middleman" and turn a blind eye.
Im trying to understand if your last comment is aimed at HP or Huawai?
Wasn't really aimed at either. But maybe to answer the question: if Huawei acts as a middleman that buys embargoed goods from the US and then sells them to a country under embargo then under US laws both Huawei and whoever sells to Huawei can be held responsible (individuals and the company as a whole), the place the actions take place aren't relevant as far as I know. Even companies selling their own product to embargoed countries without any US involvement face economic sanctions under US laws (though their executives presumably would not be arrested.)
If HP (A US company) sells to a middleman without knowing who the final customer is for embargoed goods then HP and its executives can be held legally responsible.
This is mostly based on mandatory training I had to go through while working for a US company. I am not a lawyer ;)
If embargoes were trivial to get around they'd be pointless. The intent of embargo laws are to as much as possible, within the full power of the US, prevent goods from getting to a certain country regardless of any other variable. Embargoes are pretty extreme actions, there are only a few targets for those in general and the embargo usually targets specific goods.
Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver
#653Is Canada becoming little brother of US?
What do you mean by "becoming"? The extradition treaty that the US most likely invoked in this case has been in force for almost 50 years. https://www.oas.org/juridico/mla/en/traites/en_traites-ext-c...
So many double standard to the legal system from US & Canada.
Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver
#654Is Canada becoming little brother of US?
What do you mean by "becoming"? The extradition treaty that the US most likely invoked in this case has been in force for almost 50 years. https://www.oas.org/juridico/mla/en/traites/en_traites-ext-c...
And yes, you remind me that I use the wrong word, it should not be "becoming", it should be "always". :)
Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver
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There is no way for all the events you prescribed to happen in one day across four different countries. I'm sorry to hear the loss of Prof. Zhang, however I suspect that his death may have had something to do with his heavy investment in some questionable blockchain startups.
>however I suspect that his death may have had something to do with his heavy investment in some questionable blockchain startups Why do you suspect that?
>His family said in a statement that he died after "a battle with depression."
Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver
#656Earlier quoted context omitted.
Suicide apparently https://www.chinamoneynetwork.com/2018/12/06/renowed-chinese...
That's not a trustworthy news source. Why would a renowned scientist doing world changing research commit suicide suddenly?
Many people at the top of their field suffer from depression. Floer was a 28 year old tenured professor at Berkeley when he killed himself.
Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver
#657this is violation of international law, what is canada doing for us a favor. to arrest any citizen of country in canada. this is Canada looking own trouble now. really is suck up on us political .
Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver
#658Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everyone technically has a conflict of interest or premeditated motivation. An argument should stand on its own merit, regardless of who makes it. Analyzing anything other than the argument is immature.
Analyzing anything other than the argument is immature. Yet sometimes it leads to a better outcome than just analysis of the argument alone. Context is real. Context matters. Automatically disregarding real information on the grounds of "maturity" ideology can lead to a worse outcome, so it doesn't seem like the best course.
While context is important, I’ve found that the context of who someone is personally is rarely beneficial when being objective. If anything, this approach is anti-ideology, as you are not taking ideological bias into account...and there’s way too much ideological bias in discussions these days. I think that’s what I meant by maturity.
Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver
#659Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everyone technically has a conflict of interest or premeditated motivation. An argument should stand on its own merit, regardless of who makes it. Analyzing anything other than the argument is immature.
Calling someone's argument or stance immature is immature.
With that mindset nobody should use that word. We should wipe it from the dictionary.