The strain used is specifically: Lactobacillus reuteri MM4-1A (ATCC-PTA-6475)
Only commercial product I'm finding with this strain is Biogaia Gastrus, but please let me know if anyone locates it in anything else!
Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism
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Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism
#172What kind of fucking bullshit is this?
Autism is a spectrum of compensating behavioral patterns that emerge as the way to diminish unusually high emotional stress (which is also a spectrum) due to genetically transmitted "imbalances" in a brain's structure (and/or biochemistry).
So, nowadays every kind of fucking bullshit deserve the label "working hypothesis" instead of "gross incompetence"?
BTW, autistic spectrum disorders are "hijacked" the most stable evolutionary strategy of "good looks" - quiet village beauties are carrying these alleles (presumably, product of inbreeding).
There is no coincidence, that ASDs affects mostly boys. Motherly instincts, it seems, diminish (or compensate for) behavioral deviations.
If one could come down to earth from the Ivory towers of abstract bullshit and look at the real world, the answers are out there.
Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism
#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you consider sociopathy and psychopathy to be sicknesses?
Someone else already replied, I agree with them, yes. I'm curious if anyone wouldn't?
I guess it could be because I'm not a psychologist, but I was always under the impression psychopathy & sociopathy were innate. Like, I don't know, being gay.
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are two points which may appear contradictory but may not be contracditory. 1) People act according to past experience, environment and internal biology. 2) People environment also consist of the knowledge that "For any given situation there are many options and if one looks hard and tries one may choose an appropiate response". If the society emphasize on this aspect a person might be more willing to make a "c…
People do not make choices. The programming we inherit from society, produces different outcomes because the events are in a linear order and the different orders between persons matter! Everyone seems to not grasp how important "order of knowledge" is when digested and how it will alter the person in comparison to another person who has the same knowledge but in a slightly different order of the linear input system…
If criminals can't be blamed for their crimes because they had no choice, then by the same reasoning authorities cannot be blamed for punishing them.
Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism
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It also casts religions with dietary restrictions in an interesting light.
Which major religion forbids yeast intake (and how would you guarantee that) and from which angle does one shine light on a people united in faith but with distinct local food (and yeast) sources to make it "interesting"?
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Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism
#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
People do not make choices. The programming we inherit from society, produces different outcomes because the events are in a linear order and the different orders between persons matter! Everyone seems to not grasp how important "order of knowledge" is when digested and how it will alter the person in comparison to another person who has the same knowledge but in a slightly different order of the linear input system…
If criminals can't be blamed for their crimes because they had no choice, then by the same reasoning authorities cannot be blamed for punishing them.
Yes and what is your point? We should still try to push humanity further. It's like how people once viewed the world as flat. We need to keep dismantling illusions and get closer to where humanity can be the very best to all.
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No, it makes more sense to fix the broken system that resulted in the faulty machinery and to fix the faulty person as well. If one cannot fix the person, it doesn't make sense to scrap them if we put humanity at the highest regard with understanding free will is an illusion. We would just have to prevent the person from being able to do the wrong and understand punishment is against humanity in the equation with han…
Wouldn't the choice to fix a broken system require free will not to be an illusion?
Whatever comes is destiny in our reality and when you understand free will is an illusion.. I did not have the ability to a different person and communicate something different today (same as you). Basically the needed events have to occur and similar to anything that humanity adopts as knowledge & way of life.
Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism
#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interestingly, almost no one in NA justice systems talks about evil. The causality between life events leading to crime is often ridiculously clear, and choice barely factors into it. Believing in evil is its own kind of privilege. I for one have now seen a lot of criminal cases, and I've only seen sick people and people following the path laid before them. No evil in sight, but the concept's very existence allows fo…
A lot of murderers are low socioeconomic status males, but the vast majority of low socioeconomic status males are not murderers. It seems a lot like there's a choice.
To me it just seems like a system and currently it's too complicated to understand why the similarity exists. It doesn't give any reason to believe there's a choice.
Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism
#179Without S. Boulardii, I am a neurotic mess who can't digest anything at all nor think straight after eating anything, so I'm inclined to believe this hypothesis. I am also intrigued about what this means for criminality and how the line between illness and evil is likely to shift given the role of microorganisms in behavioral dysfunction; and more broadly, we don't like to admit it, but it seems that completely amora…
Interestingly, almost no one in NA justice systems talks about evil. The causality between life events leading to crime is often ridiculously clear, and choice barely factors into it. Believing in evil is its own kind of privilege. I for one have now seen a lot of criminal cases, and I've only seen sick people and people following the path laid before them. No evil in sight, but the concept's very existence allows fo…
> Believing in evil is its own kind of privilege.
Tell that to holocaust survivors.
If you want to redefine commonly used words like "evil" until they no longer have any sort of meaning, go ahead, but in that case you might as well accept a nihilistic existence as an automaton obeying the deterministic time evolution laws of physics. I feel like the rest of society will ignore you in that case, and that's probably for the best.
Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism
#180What kind of fucking bullshit is this?
Autism is a spectrum of compensating behavioral patterns that emerge as the way to diminish unusually high emotional stress (which is also a spectrum) due to genetically transmitted "imbalances" in a brain's structure (and/or biochemistry).
So, nowadays every kind of fucking bullshit deserve the label "working hypothesis" instead of "gross incompetence"?
BTW, autistic spectrum disorders are "hijacked" the most stable evolutionary strategy of "good looks" - quiet village beauties are carrying these alleles (presumably, product of inbreeding).
There is no coincidence, that ASDs affects mostly boys. Motherly instincts, it seems, diminish (or compensate for) behavioral deviations.
If one could come down to earth from the Ivory towers of abstract bullshit and look at the real world, the answers are out there.