Leave Gmail in 10 steps • Hacker News Board

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by zwkrt » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 12:39 PM UTC

freedomben wrote: post #60

petilon wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Google is pretty open about what they do Where have they disclosed their deal with MasterCard? >> there are usually ways to opt out and still use the service Often the opt outs don't work, and these appear to be "intentional bugs": wifi privacy intentional bug https://www.wired.com/2012/05/google-wifi-fcc-investigation/ google home bug https://bgr.com/2017/10/11/google-home-mini-spying-on-user-f... And the latest…

Fair points, tho I do think I apply Hanlon's Razor a little more liberally there than you do.

Does it matter if the effect is the same?

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by adipasquale » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 12:39 PM UTC

craftyguy wrote: post #33

bunderbunder wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least of the last time I looked around (within the past year), it's the only major cloud-based option that isn't ad-supported, but does offer all the extra goodies like calendars.

There are quite a few that have been around for several years e.g. mailbox.org, runbox.com (since 1999!!), posteo.de, startmail.com...

Author here, thank you for the alternatives suggestions! I have edited the post and included them. I did not want the article to look like an ad for Fastmail by any means

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by adipasquale » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 12:40 PM UTC

ricccardo wrote: post #55

> In exchange for free mails, would you let your postman open your letters, read them, and insert ads related to their contents? Note that this is not the case anymore: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/technology/gmail-ads.html We never did that for G Suite, but with this announcement we also stopped doing it for consumer. Disclaimer: Googler working on Gmail. Please stay :-)

Author here, I have edited the article to note that the analogy is mistaken. Sorry I had completely missed that piece of news.

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by adipasquale » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 12:42 PM UTC

Klonoar wrote: post #54

gnasr wrote: post #2

This article looks like an ad for fastmail.com

I thought so too, but the author isn't using an affiliate link, so...

Author here, really sorry if it felt like an ad, it is not! I have edited the app to include links to competitors. My point is to encourage people to resist Google's hegemony

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by beagle3 » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 1:13 PM UTC

KozmoNau7 wrote: post #94

PenguinCoder wrote: post #70

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More like $10 a year for the domain and $20/mo or more for the actual email hosting and provider.

$20/month? I pay less than $3/month for web/mail hosting, full cPanel setup with 10GB storage and unlimited traffic.

Which provider?

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by timwis » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 1:39 PM UTC

The feature that makes it so hard for me to leave Gmail is the automatic bundling of promotions, updates, social, forums. That has made managing my inbox actually manageable. Is that any way to get a feature with another email provider?

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by dsamarin » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 1:46 PM UTC

timwis wrote: post #106

The feature that makes it so hard for me to leave Gmail is the automatic bundling of promotions, updates, social, forums. That has made managing my inbox actually manageable. Is that any way to get a feature with another email provider?

It will be hard for me to leave Google Inbox because of the peaceful feeling I get from easily snoozing or marking my emails as done by the end of the day. I don't know if I will ever feel as accomplished and with as little distraction.

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by adetrest » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 1:56 PM UTC

ian0 wrote: post #59

petilon wrote: post #44

If you have Gmail click this link, it is an eye opener: https://myaccount.google.com/purchases Google knows every online purchase you ever made, every line item, the price you paid, the address it was delivered to, and so on. Keep in mind that Facebook and Google also combine this data with offline data about you purchased from other companies, to complete the picture. UPDATE: Here's an example of Google purchasing d…

> Your purchases and reservations are brought together from across your Google Account, from sources including: Orders placed using Google services, like Google Play Store, Google Express, or through the Google Assistant. Order receipts or confirmations received in Gmail.[1] Wow I have a bunch gained from scraping my emails (there is an info icon that tells you the source). Mostly larger multinational merchants (Amaz…

They probably let you see it because of gdpr, and wouldn't have before that law?

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by adetrest » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 1:59 PM UTC

bpye wrote: post #38

I have no complaints with Fastmail, great experience. Android mail clients however - I really wish K-9 Mail felt more modern, it's perfectly usable but the ancient UI makes it less nice to use.

Do you have background sync problems with k9? I can't get mine to fetch emails while I'm not using k9, I have to open the app, go to unified inbox, and manually refresh. Background sync etc is on but disables itself.

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by scrollaway » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 2:11 PM UTC

_rs wrote: post #73

scrollaway wrote: post #40

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> I do hate that I can't just pay for gmail and avoid the crappy ads You can. It's $5/month and it's called GSuite. It's their enteprise offering, but don't let that turn you off, it's exactly like Google but with your own domain -- no user minimums. https://gsuite.google.com/ If you want to transition you can redirect one email to the other (@gmail to @yourdomain, or @yourdomain to @gmail). GSuite mail doesn't get a…

I'd really prefer to not use my own domain. If I could pay for GMail/GSuite with a generic (e.g. @gmail.com) address I'd be happy to.

An email whose domain you don't own is an email that you'll one day lose. (Think rs@aol.com).

Any particular reason you don't wish to use your own domain? As I said you can keep up redirects if you just can't change emails yet.