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Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by craftyguy » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 12:35 AM UTC

Upvoter33 wrote: post #16

Which other emailer has threads, snooze, and tabs? (need all of those really; hard to move without them) I do hate that I can't just pay for gmail and avoid the crappy ads...

> threads

Threads have been supported since, well, decades (message-id, In-Reply-To). Most modern mail clients support displaying messages in thread format.

> snooze I originally missed snoozing, but now I just create a task any time I need to address something, or tag/flag it for follow-up.

> tabs

I'm not sure what this is. Can you explain?

> I do hate that I can't just pay for gmail and avoid the crappy ads

Just shows that google thinks that displaying targetted ads based on the contents of your emails is more valuable than you throwing cash at them. That's terrifying.

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 12:35 AM UTC

jmole wrote: post #18

Why doesn't anyone every mention actually paying google and using GSuite, instead of using their free service?

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Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by craftyguy » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 12:38 AM UTC

bunderbunder wrote: post #11

gnasr wrote: post #2

This article looks like an ad for fastmail.com

At least of the last time I looked around (within the past year), it's the only major cloud-based option that isn't ad-supported, but does offer all the extra goodies like calendars.

There are quite a few that have been around for several years e.g. mailbox.org, runbox.com (since 1999!!), posteo.de, startmail.com...

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by craftyguy » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 12:40 AM UTC

beart wrote: post #9

news_to_me wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Idk if it does anything beyond normal CalDAV stuff, but honestly, I'm not sure what more you'd want for a personal calendar. Does GCal have any useful exclusive features?

Google has tasks and reminders that don't seem to be supported by other calendars when syncing with CalDAV.

Mailbox.org has tasks/reminders that can be sync'd over CalDAV. I currently do it with vdirsyncer on my desktop/laptop and DAVDroid on my phone.

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by gagege » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 1:16 AM UTC

Waterluvian wrote: post #22

unixhero wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All four Android ios Web Desktop

I hate hate hate web outlook. I click on new emails and they often don't register as having been "read". Drives me up the wall.

Same thing happens to me with Gmail. Weird.

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by mark_l_watson » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 1:20 AM UTC

gnasr wrote: post #2

This article looks like an ad for fastmail.com

apologies for being off topic, but: I am a long time Fastmail customer, but the law passed in Australia yesterday has me somewhat concerned. Fastmail is an Australian company. Anyone else concerned?

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by 8_hours_ago » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 1:21 AM UTC

Waterluvian wrote: post #22

unixhero wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All four Android ios Web Desktop

I hate hate hate web outlook. I click on new emails and they often don't register as having been "read". Drives me up the wall.

Huh. I haven't had that issue with Outlook Web App. I have "Mark the item as read when the selection changes" selected in my options and I haven't noticed it failing.

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by bpye » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 1:22 AM UTC

I have no complaints with Fastmail, great experience.

Android mail clients however - I really wish K-9 Mail felt more modern, it's perfectly usable but the ancient UI makes it less nice to use.

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by climb_stealth » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 1:31 AM UTC

threatofrain wrote: post #12

news_to_me wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Idk if it does anything beyond normal CalDAV stuff, but honestly, I'm not sure what more you'd want for a personal calendar. Does GCal have any useful exclusive features?

Have you had success with 2 time zones for the same event? I know there's a setting to enable it, but I haven't had success.

My fastmail calendar experiences:

- timezone support is great and an explicit feature. You can pick the time zone when adding events and there is a dropdown at the top to view the calendar in the respective selected timezone.

- you can scroll the calendar view flexibly and not just switch from month to month. You can for example scroll to see half of previous and half of current month. This fills me with so much joy and I can't understand why no one else does it.

- you can't give someone else write access to your calendar. This is my major gripe with it and the reason I'm still actually using the gmail calendar in the fastmail interface.

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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Post by scrollaway » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 1:44 AM UTC

Upvoter33 wrote: post #16

Which other emailer has threads, snooze, and tabs? (need all of those really; hard to move without them) I do hate that I can't just pay for gmail and avoid the crappy ads...

> I do hate that I can't just pay for gmail and avoid the crappy ads

You can. It's $5/month and it's called GSuite. It's their enteprise offering, but don't let that turn you off, it's exactly like Google but with your own domain -- no user minimums.

https://gsuite.google.com/

If you want to transition you can redirect one email to the other (@gmail to @yourdomain, or @yourdomain to @gmail).

GSuite mail doesn't get ads and you get some extra goodies and a ton of control over your data, just as any enterprise would.

Gandi (https://gandi.net/) is an excellent registrar if you need to purchase a domain, but Google will probably also mention you can use Google Domains to purchase one when you buy GSuite. Let me know if you have any questions, I'm always happy to help people move to their own email domain; I think it's a necessity everyone should have.