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Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Post by Shorel »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #84
vrazj wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's cool. And? I use a lot of addons. Should they all be bundled because many people happen to love them too?

To be fair, Mozilla now owns Pocket. It's not just some random extension. Chrome comes preinstalled with YouTube, Gmail etc. too. It's a bit of cross-property promotion and to be fair, Pocket is indeed quite useful.

If you own a Kobo, it is even more useful.

In fact, I switched to Firefox because of the pocket integration, not the other way around.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Post by wutbrodo »

jdofaz wrote: post #202

The future is here for at least one K-12 school district that I work with. The majority of the organizations computing devices are iPad, Chromebook or Windows S. None of those devices can run Firefox.

You can't run Firefox on an iPad?

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-your-ip...

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Post by hnaccy »

Yoric wrote: post #66
lagadu wrote: post #55

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Market research, in this particular case adoption rate, also indicates that people love giving all their privacy away to google.

Good point. But Pocket isn't harmful, especially if you don't use it. In the worst case, it makes the Firefox installer a few kb larger, that's about it.

It leaks information about my browsing history.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Post by hartator »

RussianCow wrote: post #239
hartator wrote: post #199

I don’t fully get the cult-like altitude with Mozilla. Just pick the best web browser. If it happens to be Firefox, great, if not pick, Chrome, Chromium, Brave, Opera, Safari, or whatever you feel is best for you. Mozilla has been losing marked shares since then and a moralist message is not the way to go.

Unless you actually care about the moral issues, like privacy?

What's wrong with privacy with unGoogled Chromium, Brave, Safari or Opera?

Mozilla has been careless with your privacy at least a couple of times: Mr Robot injected ad, Google Analytics in extension panel, and Pocket aggressive integration to name a few.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Post by sgift »

mscasts wrote: post #164

I used to donate to Mozilla, but ever since they fired Brendan I haven't been able to look at them the same way. I use Firefox daily, but actually don't really care if they die because it's their own fault.

Brendan Eich wasn't fired, he stepped down.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Post by burtonator »

nindalf wrote: post #9

Just so we can avoid rehashing the discussion whenever a post encouraging the use of Firefox is posted. - Yes, Mozilla is still the better browser when it comes to privacy. - Yes, Mozilla has made missteps with Pocket and Mr. Robot. - Yes, it is slow/resource heavy on certain Macs with non-default resolutions. Yes, Mozilla is working on a fix. - Yes, it has become really fast for most users after Quantum improvements…

I can't articulate it but I just don't "like" Firefox.

I used to be a huge fan of FF... I think with Chromium, at least for me, the browser has never changed.

Every time I try to go back to FF it's different and I have to re-learn it.

It might be better for them to clone the FF menu system so that you can switch to it without having to re-learn everything.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Post by Rusky »

SilasX wrote: post #192
Santosh83 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A browser written in Rust (which is probably Firefox's long term goal) should blow Chrome out of the water in terms of security, despite the massive efforts invested in that regard by Google to prop up Chrome's C++ code base.

Google doesn’t have military grade static analysis that rejects anything that could allow buffer overflow attacks?

No, they don't, because such a thing cannot exist for C++. Any attempt would basically recreate Rust, or something equivalently incompatible with existing C++ codebases.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Post by Rexel »

Choose Firefox Now, or else a kitten dies?

Sorry I need to use a browser that isn't complete garbage Mozilla.. you used to have such a browser.

It seems you've been overrun by morons, now you need to go take a look at Vivaldi.com ...at least they know how to build a browser for users who want useful features and customization built in, and not some basic chrome crap, especially when the addons that used to provide those features don't exist because YOU FKING BROKE ALL THE GOOD ONES MOZILLA.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Post by 29083011397778 »

bad_user wrote: post #39

Note this advice is true for email services as well. Pay for and use an alternative now, or later you won't get the choice. Google is hellbent on locking people into their ecosystem. One such move is the promotion of AMP: https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/13/amp-for-email-is-a-terribl... Speaking of email and browsers, the Gmail app on top of iOS presents the user with a choice between two browsers: 1. Safari 2. Chrome,…

>I mean they disallow users to uninstall their apps

All default apps on Android live on the system partition, meaning even if you uninstalled them, regular, non-rooted users wouldn't have any additional space to use.

This policy also means you can't really mess up (for average consumers) an android phone by uninstalling something important, like webview or the Play Store.

Any updates to the default apps are installed on the user-accessible data (IIRC) partition, and so can be uninstalled by users, actually freeing up space.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Post by anticensor »

speedplane wrote: post #18
ginko wrote: post #12

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Even if Firefox were an objectively worse browser than Chrome(which I don't think it is these days) there is still an argument to be made to use it anyways to ensure the freedom of the web.

> there is still an argument to be made to use [firefox] anyways to ensure the freedom of the web. Definitely. Remember when Google wanted to buy Wikipedia but promised to keep it a free resource? So happy that didn't happen, it would have been the end of Wikipedia. Services like Firefox and Wikipedia are the last vestiges we have of the original intent of the internet, an place to congregate with the user in mind. M…

Or fenced yards, which only acts as echo chamber with an extra chorus.
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