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Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by dragonwriter »

int_19h wrote: post #251
dragonwriter wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat. Bernie Sanders is occasionally a Democrat; particularly, he was when running for President in 2016 and almost certainly will be if he runs for President in 2020; as a Senator he is “merely” an independent who caucuses with the Democrats, doesn't have the Democratic Party support candidates against him, and is the Democratic caucus’s ranking member of the Senate Banking Committee.

I think the important part is that he doesn't have personal connections either directly with the industry lobbyists, or with prominent Dem leadership figures who do. So he can afford to ignore the lobbying.

> I think the important part is that he doesn't have personal connections either directly with the industry lobbyists, or with prominent Dem leadership figures who do.

No, he didn't get to be the ranking member of the Banking Committee without personal connections with just about every Dem leadership figure that matters, especially in the Senate.

Now, he might have the moral fortitude to stand up for his public values despite such connections, but denying that they exist is ludicrous.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by ken »

atombender wrote: post #230
davidp wrote: post #19

Seriously, switch to Firefox. It's good again, and prioritizes privacy.[0] After Chrome's forced-sign-in debacle [1] I switched away from Chrome on all my platforms (Windows, Linux, Android) and haven't missed a thing. [0]: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/11/firefox-sync-privacy/ [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18055161

Adapting a comment I posted in a different Firefox thread: I'd like to use Firefox. I prefer its ideals to everything else. I've tried it out several times the last year. It's okay. Unfortunately, I always end up going back to Safari. Despite the performance improvements, Safari still feels like a faster, sleeker, smoother, and more user-focused browser. Firefox is still pretty ugly. On macOS, it feels chunkier and l…

I, too, really want to like Firefox, but usability (at least on Mac) is clearly not a priority. Standard keyboard shortcuts are broken, and have been for years. There’s abstraction layers (unique to FF) to figure out how to make a text field work like a text field. The preferences dialog box is gone, for some reason.

When FF wants to be a Mac app, I’ll be the first one in line to use it.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by smt88 »

fireattack wrote: post #268
eCa wrote: post #241

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> The first one is the tab research feature. It available for many years in chrome I don't understand why it's still missing in firefox. I can't type "yo [hit tab] my video" to find a video on youtube. If I understand you correctly: In firefox you set this up by 1) Create a bookmark 2) Edit it, and a) insert %s where you want "my video" to go, and b) give it a keyword, e.g. "yo". Now you can use it by typing "yo my v…

I use Fx as my main browser, but the quick search feature in Fx is miles behind Chrome's. 1. In chrome, you don't need to manually add anything; you don't need to assign a keyword that you have to memorize. All the websites that you frequent that support OpenSearch will be automatically added by Chrome and you use their domain as keyword. I can now type en + tab to search on Wikipedia, as well as hundreds of other we…

Those two features combined end up sending keystrokes to third parties in a way that is not transparent to users, and they haven’t consented to it, either.

I prefer Firefox’s defaults on both counts.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by pseudalopex »

npunt wrote: post #235
adontz wrote: post #116

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Firefox added Pocket, and kind of nobody wanted it. So it happens in FF too.

To be honest, I actually really like that they added Pocket, and I don't think it takes anything away from FF.

It took away Reading List, which was similar but private.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by tinix »

We only support webkit based browsers for our web application. Multiple fortune 500 companies use it, meaning they are using neither IE/Edge nor Firefox... nuff said.

I'm guessing the people complaining here haven't tried to embed Gecko vs Webkit. Webkit is far superior, it's the leading browser engine world-wide, and it would be really strange for Microsoft to choose Gecko over Webkit, as a result.

Also, Microsoft would be unable to provide a browser for iOS if they went with Gecko. Why would they try to standardize around a browser engine that is supported across less platforms than Webkit?

Webkit's API for engine embedding is far superior to Gecko[0], and that's coming from Mozilla directly.

> The “browser engines” — Chromium from Google and Gecko Quantum from Mozilla

Huh? Sorry Mozilla, but you have to know that "Chromium" is not the engine, it's Blink, Google's fork of Webkit. Chromium is an application that encapsulates Blink, just like Firefox is an application that encapsulates Gecko.

Anyway, the complaining from Mozilla is hilarious anyway... Do they seriously want Microsoft influencing them? C'mon... They are just butthurt because Webkit has way more market share than Gecko, and even more so now that Microsoft is abandoning EdgeHTML.

[0] https://www.quora.com/Will-Firefox-ever-drop-its-Gecko-layou...

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by ww520 »

Someone1234 wrote: post #76
davidp wrote: post #19

Seriously, switch to Firefox. It's good again, and prioritizes privacy.[0] After Chrome's forced-sign-in debacle [1] I switched away from Chrome on all my platforms (Windows, Linux, Android) and haven't missed a thing. [0]: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/11/firefox-sync-privacy/ [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18055161

The best thing about Firefox is Mozilla's Multi-Account Container tabs[0]. Essentially it allows you to put different tabs into different light-weight profiles, with their own session, cookies, and state. That means if you want to log into Facebook but don't want Facebook following you online, just give Facebook its own container. Mozilla has anti-tracking already baked in, but Multi-Account Containers are a whole ot…

Container is great. I have to toot my own honk. The addon Session Boss supports container seamlessly. I have multiple GMail accounts that I put in different containers with their own logon and cookies. Session Boss saves the tabs and containers in a session and easily restore them the next time I need them.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by lostmsu »

stefs wrote: post #163
IvanK_net wrote: post #54

Mozilla. What a great, open and free place, where you can't write your opinion under articles.

i feel like it's quite sensible today to offload comments to the various platforms that exist mostly to provide comments on articles. i, for one, usually go for the HN comments even before reading the websites own.

In many cases there's no point in reading the site itself.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by ukblewis »

ekianjo wrote: post #294
WeAreGoingIn wrote: post #239

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The best thing about FF is about:config. It tunes in to the legacy of Netscape and Amiga where you could and can configure everything to how you like it. This is freedom, unlike chromium.

Looks like you don't know about chrome://flags/

It’s not remotely as complete as about:config
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