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Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Can somebody explain to me on what authority the US can request the arrest of a Chinese national on Canadian soil for any action they took while conducting operations of a Chinese organization headquartered in China?

The RCMP and FBI regularly cooperate on arrests.

IE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_Border_Declaration

There's all sorts of similar agreements/declarations/etc. We have a rather fluid border for the arrest and extradition of individuals.

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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She allegedly broke US law and was in the territory of a country that shares an extradition treaty with the US.

How sure can I be if my company is not breaking any Chinese laws? Would it by fine if I get arrested for breaking those when I'm on a trip to Asia? I'm not saying that Huawei is innocent, I just agree with the downvoted comment that the situation seems ridiculous.

You should ask your corporate counsel. Yes, it would be fine if you get arrested.

This is why a number of VW corporate officers cannot travel to countries with extradition treaties with the US, due to diesel cheating scandal.

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publication_ban As stated on the wiki, likely because the publicity generated could affect the case. This case likely will get a lot of publicity.

Yes, but her name was released. I'm questioning on what exactly this ban is protecting if her identity is already known?

I believe (based on the fact she was arrested Dec. 1) that her name was part of the tight information security but once it gets out that she has been arrested the news are allowed to publish that. Moreover, It also appears these may be international papers and I don’t know enough to say they have to or don’t have to follow the ban.

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Did you read the article? US is alleging Huawei was shipping "U.S.-origin" products to Iran - probably U.S. made components for Huawei devices/technology. What "authority" do you need to ask for a favor from a friendly ally? Canada also has active economic sanctions against Iran.

I wonder if the type of component used even matters. What if the us origin component was a plastic bezel, a screw or some peice of sheet metal in the chassis...

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Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Nothing new here! She appears to have violated the US sanctions. Many people have ended up in prison for lesser offenses, some of whom were not even aware of their crime. The story of John Roth is really informative. He was indicted and jailed simply because of hiring two Iranian and Chinese students. https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/knoxville/press-releases/2...

The fact that it was a USAF drone project which he hired them for seems salient, no?

Maybe! Probably he should have known better, but that's beside the point. One can end up in jail by simply hiring nationals from sanctioned countries. This case is more clearcut in comparison. She was actually involved in exporting American technology to Iran.

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Can somebody explain to me on what authority the US can request the arrest of a Chinese national on Canadian soil for any action they took while conducting operations of a Chinese organization headquartered in China?

What I would like to know is how deals like this go down? Like does the US have some sort of agreement/incentive with Canada for them to spend their own effort on this?

The US calling Canada on the phone and asking them to arrest someone they want seems too.. easy? I imagine there's a limit where goodwill only gets you so far, and then some sort of compensation is expected. Maybe there's a lot of backdoor Gov2Gov money funneling or economic deals, but idk. This seems like stuff that is opaque to average citizens.

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Can somebody explain to me on what authority the US can request the arrest of a Chinese national on Canadian soil for any action they took while conducting operations of a Chinese organization headquartered in China?

Sanctions governing trade with Iran have been codified through multiple acts of Congress and are overseen under the Departments of Treasury, Commerce, and State, under Title 31 statute, with additional regulatory aspects within Titles 15 and 22. The statute (31 CFR 560.205) makes reexportation of US goods from a third party country by a non-US person explicitly illegal under US law.

To the second aspect of your question, Canada is under treaty obligation to cooperate with extradition requests issued by US courts for fugitive apprehension, and Canadian courts will rule on whether the extradition is consistent with Canadian law before transferring the suspect to US federal custody.

Welcome to the rule of law.

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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I would not look forward to being an American businessman abroad in China right now. I think we're all used to the fiction that we live in a world that's totally governed by fairness and laws. That's been a pretty useful fiction for a long time, and in (some) of the developed world that's basically been how it's worked. But I really wonder how many shocks this system can take. I would bet money that an important US e…

Seriously. It's this fiction that makes me believe that, despite it's flaws, America (along with other democratic countries) is a beacon compared to the rest of the world. A country locking up a foreigner for breaking their laws is so different than a country locking up said foreigner out of retaliation, which is what I imagine China will end up doing.

It would be interesting to see what the current US president would do in response to that. They are not exactly dealing with a rational man.

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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I would not look forward to being an American businessman abroad in China right now. I think we're all used to the fiction that we live in a world that's totally governed by fairness and laws. That's been a pretty useful fiction for a long time, and in (some) of the developed world that's basically been how it's worked. But I really wonder how many shocks this system can take. I would bet money that an important US e…

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Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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I would not look forward to being an American businessman abroad in China right now. I think we're all used to the fiction that we live in a world that's totally governed by fairness and laws. That's been a pretty useful fiction for a long time, and in (some) of the developed world that's basically been how it's worked. But I really wonder how many shocks this system can take. I would bet money that an important US e…

Maybe this petty fight between nation-states will finally do what financial legislation could not.
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