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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by cf498 »

mk89 wrote: post #675
cf498 wrote: post #478

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No it is not. If all the alternatives werent so dismal I would have wiped FF from all my machines when they first switched to quantum and then had no extended support frame for ESR52. It was a slap in the face of the core user base and they did it carelessly. They did not have the necessary information in place early enough and did not fix bugs that prevented people from porting their addons before the end of the las…

Do you ever wonder why the alternatives are so dismal? Man, a web browser that works on all the current existing devices on the planet is not something that I would consider trivial, at all. Internet Explorer needed a brand new operating system that forces it for anything you do to regain some momentum... Apple has to offer obviously stuff that you can't do easily with other browsers, like integration with the passwo…

I was talking about the privacy aspect.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by trynewideas »

r3bl wrote: post #582
adminu wrote: post #535

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I think FF Focus is absolutely brilliant an mobile and for everything else (except Facebook) I use firefox with ublock origin. It performs very well and I can nicely sync my passwords and tabs to my other devices.

I use Firefox Focus as my primary browser (every crap I click on opens in it), and Firefox as my secondary (when I need tabs).

For those on Android, Focus does tabs. The interface is different and more hidden, which is feature-not-bug territory for Focus: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/open-new-tab-firefox-fo...

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by cf498 »

SilasX wrote: post #666
cf498 wrote: post #487

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They rushed it and I find it hard to not see it as a giant "screw you". They didnt release the specifications early enough for people to rewrite their addons and at the end of ESR52 there where still multiple bugs open which prevented people from porting their addons. We didnt even get a normal 1 year ESR support frame for gods sake. All that ignoring the fact that there was no warning for the end users that all thei…

I'm just amazed that you can't even manually remap keyboard commands. Seriously Mozilla? $500 million/year in funding and you can't support that customization?

An even better example is "Other Bookmarks". https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/default-bookm...

They simply changed the default bookmark location with no option to change it back.

I need an addon to change the default bookmark location to keep my earlier filing approach.

I mean really?

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by ShinTakuya »

NoGravitas wrote: post #573
Vindicis wrote: post #556

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I'm honestly a bit confused. This is the second comment I've seen regarding the lack of this feature. It's not one I ever use purposefully, so maybe I just don't understand what's missing. But, with Firefox on my Samsung Galaxy, I can zoom in and out of text and photos by pinching, with no issues at all. Was it a long time ago when you last tried it perhaps?

I think they mean desktop Firefox on a touchscreen laptop, rather than mobile Firefox. Personally, I can't imagine trying to pinch-zoom on a desktop, but maybe I'm just old.

On Microsoft Surface in tablet mode I often want to pinch zoom. It works but it's limited to the discrete zoom levels that you see with Ctrl+ and Ctrl- so you don't get the smooth zoom you get on Chrome. I still prefer FF for a variety of other reasons so to me it's just a nitpick.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by NelsonMinar »

tqkxzugoaupvwqr wrote: post #138
NelsonMinar wrote: post #119

I switched to desktop with Quantum and love it. But the huge win for me was switching to Firefox Mobile on my iPhone. It may just be a wrapper for WebKit. But it integrates with Firefox Sync. The killer feature is "send this tab to your iPhone". Great when you're looking at a recipe / restaurant address / funny picture on your computer and want to have it on your phone.

> The killer feature is "send this tab to your iPhone". You can do the same in Safari with AirDrop and Handoff. If you enable iCloud for Safari, you can see all your Safari tabs from other devices.

I can't run Safari.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by wslh »

ohthehugemanate wrote: post #505
wslh wrote: post #496

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> I have read comments in this thread suggesting that FF's performance is not that snappy but I cannot seem to notice any difference. I tried to switch from Chrome to Firefox a few months ago but I had a terrible experience using Hangouts with a customer for two hours. The Firefox degraded until a point of no return and that sucks when you are talking with a customer. I initially blamed the network but there was no s…

> I tried to switch from Chrome to Firefox but I had a terrible experience using Hangouts So, you're saying Google's anti-competitive tactic of degrading and not supporting other browsers worked on you. Did you know there's a name for that tactic? Embrace Extend Extinguish. Did you consider using another, more neutral video conference system?

> Did you consider using another, more neutral video conference system?

We pay for G Suite so I don't expect to pay for another service. I love Zoom btw.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by tim333 »

bad_user wrote: post #480
kansi wrote: post #452

Reading this breaks my heart. I have been a Firefox user for almost a decade now and I have good and bad memories with it. Since Quantum release my experience with FF has been nothing but exceptional. On a general day I have around ~15 pinned tabs and more than 50 other tabs open and FF handles it like a breeze. The memory usage is good given the fact that my workload is heavy. On a dual-core machine, I am able to re…

> “ I am tired of listening to people screaming their lungs out about privacy when their actions don't reflect their opinions. ” Those screaming for privacy, like myself, are in fact a small minority. Also regardless of the topic, double standards are rampant in this community. You’ll often see people screaming against Google but still using @gmail.com because paying for a domain and the price of one coffee per month…

>double standards are rampant

I'm not that bothered about the type of privacy Chrome invades. If someone put a camera in my bedroom I'm bothered but if Google knows I'm thinking of fixing my washing machine and tries to advertise to me it doesn't bother me.

But say that and you get down voted etc by the "people screaming their lungs out about privacy" crowd. So us types kind of keep quiet.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by InitialLastName »

bayindirh wrote: post #689
wwright wrote: post #678

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> BTW, I never store anything which makes me uncomfortable, anywhere incl. my brain. That's a much better way of living. Not that privacy conscious people is hiding something, but that's my policy. That is a better way of living, but it’s a harder choice for a lot of people. With recent political trends towards the far right, it could become a harder choice for even more.

> With recent political trends towards the far right, it could become a harder choice for even more. Yes, you're right. The climate worldwide is not the kindest recently. BTW, with uncomfortable I didn't mean opinions or ideas, but anything which will embrass you or put you in a hard situation if revealed. As a corollary, this means living an honest life and telling what you think. Generally violence doesn't born fro…

It's lucky for you that you don't love anyone your society says you shouldn't, that you never love them in a way your society says you shouldn't, and that you are never forced into a decision your society doesn't approve of.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by internalfx »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #645
internalfx wrote: post #597

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I have run a Zimbra server for several years now, it's a full size enterprise grade email server. I can run it on a $10 droplet from Digital Ocean. $10 is kinda high just for my email, but the bonus is I host _all_ my family's mail. Wife, kids even mom and dad! It's been nice not being concerned about email privacy. Zimbra is a great piece of software. I think more people should look into it.

I don't trust myself enough to run my own mail server; did you set up your own backups? What's the uptime / SLA (not that gmail has any but still)? Do you need to set up and manage security yourself?

DO makes backups easy.

It Rarely ever goes down (maybe twice in 4 years? I have to think really hard to remember an outage, it's just kinda always....there.)

I periodically run:

    sudo apt update
    sudo apt full-upgrade
Honestly it takes very little of my time, and Zimbra is a really awesome email system.
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