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Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by slig »

favadi wrote: post #423
jeswin wrote: post #23

I have switched to Firefox on mobile as well. There are some occasional hiccups (rare), but the speedup and battery life you gain from ad-blocking makes it totally worth it. For those who are evaluating, please install AdBlock before you take a call - and do try it for a few days.

Firefox is clearly inferior compare to Chrome on Android, but I can't browse the web without adblock anymore, so it is Firefox + uBlock origin for me.

Have you tried Brave? Works flawlessly for me, and quite a bit faster than FF.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by xte »

mda wrote: post #420
feanaro wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think modern Firefox is a much better browser than Chrome though, but Mozilla certainly lost the PR war and to no fault but their own, because Firefox sure sucked for a long while. This gets said often, but I've been using Firefox continually since 2003 and I've never noticed it sucking.

I used Chrome since its early alpha versions on Linux, and I have to disagree. Even in its first days Chrome was a far superior browser speed, responsiveness and security wise. Firefo caught on some of these nowadays, but not nearly e ough for me to switch back.

The same for me until few time ago when Chrome weight and features start to be more nice for Alphabet then me.

I ditch all Alphabet services, I do not like to waste my system and network resources for it's sake.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by 2T1Qka0rEiPr »

I begrudgingly left the FF community when it became far, far easier to debug and develop on Chrome. At that time Chrome was competing with Firebug, and it was clear that the Chrome team had far more resources to be able to make continual improvements to the development experience than Firebug made. So I switched for development, and for practical reasons all other usage followed.

I wonder if my story is similar to others. From what I've seen Firefox now looks as though it has much better tools in-built and so I could consider the switch back, but I'd love some input on that.

Also, things I develop obviously have to work on Chrome, so that's another impediment to me switching over entirely, which is a shame.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by bluehatbrit »

mherrmann wrote: post #326
hliyan wrote: post #323

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This is exactly where the lost me too. I'm moving towards using Facebook and Gmail in their own Firefox containers. But the problem is, I foresee a lot of sites that use "Sign in with Google" deliberately crippling their experience for people who don't expose their Google session...

I think signing in with anything other than email is a horrible idea. By doing that, you forever tie yourself (and your data) to Google. I never use those options.

I agree, but I didn't come to this decision until a bit later in my internet life, so I'm slowly unpicking a number of services.

These days if a service doesn't support email auth I just don't bother signing up for it. I control my email address and the domain used for it, I can't see a reason to use my old gmail anymore.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by GrayShade »

sakisv wrote: post #393
arkh wrote: post #346

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I think it's more like a new generation of people started using Mac OS on which I heard Firefox suck. So being already in a walled garden environment they did not care about entering Google's. Firefox was always good on other OS. And you got noscript there with full access to block everything Chrome does not want you to block.

FWIW, I use Firefox on High Sierra and I don't think it sucks at all. About noscript: Recently I was playing with it, in an attempt to curate which site is allowed to make connections to which domain but I discovered that I cannot do it on a per domain basis and every whitelisted entry was applied everywhere. Apparently that was something that could be configured at noscript's ABE panel which doesn't exist in the lat…

uBlock Origin can also do that.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by cf498 »

mk89 wrote: post #358
javitury wrote: post #325

What an irony. I've been using firefox for 10+ years and now it is faster, uses less resourses and doesn't crash. As a user, this is the browser I have been waiting for. Yes, dev tools features could be expanded as well as the plugin franework(vimperator!).But these are non-issues for regular users.

The only thing I disliked in so many years is the bunch of imcompatible extensions due to the switch to the new plugin system. For example, I was unable to use NoScript, because it didn't really work well. Still, this is something you can forgive considering that for more than 15 years they released always good software.

No it is not. If all the alternatives werent so dismal I would have wiped FF from all my machines when they first switched to quantum and then had no extended support frame for ESR52.

It was a slap in the face of the core user base and they did it carelessly. They did not have the necessary information in place early enough and did not fix bugs that prevented people from porting their addons before the end of the last pre quantum ESR. They more then deserve where they are today

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by sureaboutthis »

I started my web dev company in early 2003. My son, a big gamer, pushed me to not use IE as our primary development browser and to use this new thing called Firefox which I think was version 0.9. To appease him, I would test our web pages in Firefox and started noticing differences with IE. So I started asking questions.

"Why does the HTML standard say things are supposed to work one way, and it does in Firefox, but not in IE?"

I would be laughed off any forum I visited. I would still be laughed off a lot of forums until 2012 or so. With this announcement, you will still find people who think there was nothing wrong with IE and will even think "Edge is great!".

Well, like I used to tell people years ago, if Edge is so great, why is Microsoft dumping it?

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by bad_user »

kansi wrote: post #452

Reading this breaks my heart. I have been a Firefox user for almost a decade now and I have good and bad memories with it. Since Quantum release my experience with FF has been nothing but exceptional. On a general day I have around ~15 pinned tabs and more than 50 other tabs open and FF handles it like a breeze. The memory usage is good given the fact that my workload is heavy. On a dual-core machine, I am able to re…

> “I am tired of listening to people screaming their lungs out about privacy when their actions don't reflect their opinions.”

Those screaming for privacy, like myself, are in fact a small minority.

Also regardless of the topic, double standards are rampant in this community.

You’ll often see people screaming against Google but still using @gmail.com because paying for a domain and the price of one coffee per month is too expensive. Or people claiming that they need ad-blockers for privacy, but then screaming against paywalls.

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