Google's cross-platform Flutter UI toolkit goes 1.0

Post by pier25 » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 7:44 PM UTC

tabs_masterrace wrote: post #63

asien wrote: post #46

Google is spending so much money on Flutter , it’s insulting. Honestly, the entire industry is shifting towards JavaScript/Typescript and the only language that they could think of for Flutter is Dart ? This is even more Hypocrite knowing that Flutter doesn’t actually run the Dart VM, it uses AOT and compile to native code. Meaning we could use literally any ECMAScript language to run with Flutter instead of Dart. Th…

I'm not a fan of Dart either, but common JavaScript/TypeScript isn't exactly the holy grail either. JS is basically unusable due to, well lack of types, and TypeScript hacks them into it by hugely increasing complexity of everything. Should have gone with Kotlin. Would just sweep over huge amounts of existing Andoid devs too.

Post by pjmlp » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 7:45 PM UTC

mg74 wrote: post #95

pjmlp wrote: post #60

Unless they force Flutter upon Android devs, I will let it pass, not eager to learn Dart.

Dart is fine. Way better than Java. So don't let that stop you, you will pick it up in no time.

Post by pjmlp » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 7:48 PM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #91

jmull wrote: post #83

Cross-platform frameworks that don’t use native controls have suffered from problems... - They inevitably don’t look or work like native apps in ways both big and small, frustrating and annoying users. (... the spell-checker doesn’t work right or text selection is janky or unavailable where it should be, certain short-cuts work differently or have different gestures or keys, etc.) - they don’t get updates to native c…

> - They inevitably don’t look or work like native apps in ways both big and small, frustrating and annoying users. We're way past that in the mobile world, where both Google, Facebook, and other top dogs use non-native cross platform frameworks and looks (e.g. Material UI).

Post by swsieber » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 7:50 PM UTC

qwerty456127 wrote: post #30

Looks cool but not too much of cross-platform - iOS and Android only. It seems the only really cross-platform GUI technologies still are browser-powered and Qt.

Post by Apocryphon » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 7:52 PM UTC

stefan_ wrote: post #26

bsimpson wrote: post #5

Flutter renders the whole UI, like a game engine. In the past, this has meant that if there isn't a Flutter implemention of a component (like a video player or map), you couldn't add it to your app. I don't know if that's still true. [edit]: It looks like this has been addressed with the PlatformView widget: https://developers.googleblog.com/2018/12/flutter-10-googles... [edit]: Sorry, bluetidepro - this was supposed…

That's modern development for you. Shipping a copy of Skia so you can render exact facsimiles of Android widgets to a Vulkan context and avoid having Android render Android widgets with Skia to a Vulkan context. A full Chrome copy for your desktop app is whatever, we have the resources, but on smartphones this is actively harmful. It bypasses the hardware compositors. Displaying a video, they have to render that to a…