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Google personalizes search results even when you’re logged out, new study finds

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Re: Google personalizes search results even when you’re logged out, new study finds

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Even if I use an addon that deletes my cookies from Google every time I close the tab?

Do you switch IPs, browsers, computers, etc every time you close the tab too? If not, Google tracks you.

Even if you did all that Google will track you. Whether they match up all your identities or not is another story.

Re: Google personalizes search results even when you’re logged out, new study finds

#22
post #11

I'm not sure I'm comfortable which a critique written by an economic competitor (DuckDuckGo) that obscures its identity and doesn't disclose its conflict of interest.

Well it does say that it's the DuckDuckGo Blog, and it has the DuckDuckGo logo at the top. That's not very obscure.

https://spreadprivacy.com/google-filter-bubble-study/

Re: Google personalizes search results even when you’re logged out, new study finds

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post #19

Welcome to 2009, I guess "Today we're helping people get better search results by extending Personalized Search to signed-out users worldwide (...)" https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/personalized-search-...

Sounds like the "study" should have been just a google search.

Because "they do X" makes looking into "what do the results of X look like" a completely pointless question?

Re: Google personalizes search results even when you’re logged out, new study finds

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post #23
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like the "study" should have been just a google search.

Because "they do X" makes looking into "what do the results of X look like" a completely pointless question?

Yeah, the problem is more with the headline than the study.

Re: Google personalizes search results even when you’re logged out, new study finds

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I think this should be considered the original source instead? https://spreadprivacy.com/google-filter-bubble-study/

So much Vox media blog spam on HN - yesterday their Tumblr story (wrapping Tumblr's official announcement and adding very little) hit front page, and the official announcement (posted earlier and modded up first) was marked as dupe.

Re: Google personalizes search results even when you’re logged out, new study finds

#29
To me, constantly complaining about sites/companies doing this stuff or wanting laws to make them stop... It just feels silly and pointless.

In the long term, companies will gather and use what data they have access to. Companies will tailor their UI, product, etc. in order to keep that data flowing. A ruleset based on permission and consent is not practical, unless the goal is "better paperwork."

The solution (imho) has to come from browser software or w3c. The browser should control permissions, in broadly the same way mobile OSs/appstore control permissions and login state.

ATM Google de-anonymizes you. This should just be impossible, unless the browser tells it who you are.

^I know gdpr is popular with a lot of people here. I think it has some good parts, but I disagree with other parts. We can still be friends and disagree :)

Re: Google personalizes search results even when you’re logged out, new study finds

#30
The problem is, these "personalized results" have become mostly useless. For more technical (or simply specific) queries, Google seems to vomit useless only vaguely related links instead of, you know, pages that cover what i searched for.

This does more to encourage me switching to some other search engine than any privacy concern.

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