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Google personalizes search results even when you’re logged out, new study finds

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Re: Google personalizes search results even when you’re logged out, new study finds

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I always assumed they would, just like Youtube 'recommends' videos for you whether you're logged in or not. This is one of the reasons why I don't use Google / Bing / etc directly anymore, instead I use them through a meta-search engine (using a local instance of Searx [1] with some extra code to have it search my local content as well [2]).

[1] https://github.com/asciimoo/searx

[2] https://github.com/asciimoo/searx/pull/1257

Re: Google personalizes search results even when you’re logged out, new study finds

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Even if I use an addon that deletes my cookies from Google every time I close the tab?

Google has more than cookies deployed to get after you. There are a myriad number of tracking vectors they can use. (And to be fair, so can any of the other companies out there tracking everything.) Deleting cookies is certainly a start, but it's not sufficient to maintain privacy.

i know there's a bunch of ways to track people without cookies (supercookies, browser fingerprinting, etc.), but is there any evidence that they're being deployed by google or any of the big western advertising companies?

Re: Google personalizes search results even when you’re logged out, new study finds

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I'm the last one to say you shouldn't scrutinize what Google does, but this is complete non-news. In the beginning, I was suspecting actively used logged-out cookies like Facebook infamously uses for example (try it, they're showing your face and keep tracking you all over the web). Reading on about differing search results in private mode, I was then expecting something like Google actually using IP + Fingerprint ma…

Maybe it's complete non-news to you. Facts aren't simply pointed out once and ubiquitously committed to the public consciousness. There's nothing wrong with a healthy reminder.

Re: Google personalizes search results even when you’re logged out, new study finds

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google has more than cookies deployed to get after you. There are a myriad number of tracking vectors they can use. (And to be fair, so can any of the other companies out there tracking everything.) Deleting cookies is certainly a start, but it's not sufficient to maintain privacy.

i know there's a bunch of ways to track people without cookies (supercookies, browser fingerprinting, etc.), but is there any evidence that they're being deployed by google or any of the big western advertising companies?

I can say for certain that I worked for a company that wasn't Google and employed plenty of ways to track people that didn't involve cookies.

We used it mostly to try and track malicious users (banned users, etc.) but it's still tracking nonetheless. It was reasonably effective.

I'm sure a company of Google's size and sophistication has many more advanced methods than we did.

Re: Google personalizes search results even when you’re logged out, new study finds

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Welcome to 2009, I guess "Today we're helping people get better search results by extending Personalized Search to signed-out users worldwide (...)" https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/personalized-search-...

Sounds like the "study" should have been just a google search.

Re: Google personalizes search results even when you’re logged out, new study finds

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I'm not sure I'm comfortable which a critique written by an economic competitor (DuckDuckGo) that obscures its identity and doesn't disclose its conflict of interest.

Well I mean what's wrong with the study itself?

If you think DDG might have biased the structure or even falsified results, fine - make that claim. But otherwise this shouldn't really matter. Otherwise we're going to go down a rabbit hole of arguing on subjective matters, like why trust DDG, rather than pointing out objectively what's wrong with the research.

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