YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M • Hacker News Board

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by dogma1138 » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 12:52 PM UTC

xte wrote: post #202

dogma1138 wrote: post #197

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You are really barking up the wrong tree, I think you took a wrong turn on your way to the rally comrade.

A small example: take a young CAD/CAE/CAM engineer, ask he/she to design something for doing a certain job. Ask the same to an ancient engineer. Compare results. The young will give you a well simulated part/assembly ready for first prototype, the ancient normally gives you small note and a drawing. Prototype the two: the younger one is generally far more complex to being build, costly and far less effective than the…

Your rant has absolutely nothing to do with the subject matter nor reality.

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by matteuan » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 1:02 PM UTC

ittgsv wrote: post #160

manmal wrote: post #78

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Pewdiepie definitely diverges strongly from Felix‘ IRL persona. Pewdiepie is an outgoing personality with misogynistic tendencies, playing with racial slurs every now and then, appealing to his Reddit/4chanish/incel followers (whom he now calls army of 9 year olds). IRL he seems to be awkward around other people, soft (nice), and obviously a bit depressed.

I've never watched pewdiepie but I assume his audience is too young to be on reddit or 4chan or to having been rejected by women for so long as to consider themselves to be celibates.

It's funny that you say his audience is too young for reddit, since the Pewdiepie's subreddit r/PewdiepieSubmissions/ has more than 700k subscribers.

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by Spooky23 » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 1:08 PM UTC

TravHatesMe wrote: post #16

What I find interesting is that many of these youtubers have created personas to appeal to their audience, like true entertainers. However loyal viewers are fooled into this false sense of reality, where they are friends with content creator and this is not a persona at all, he's my friend. Over time, the content creator and the audience share so many moments together, it becomes an emotional bond and a substitute fo…

This is a feature of this type of medium.

Radio has similar properties, which is one of the reasons it is such a popular medium for certain types of demagoguery. Modern TV is different, but many people had similar feelings of attachment to soap opera characters, etc.

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by JorgeGT » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 1:09 PM UTC

Waterluvian wrote: post #190

jacobush wrote: post #156

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I think many who grew up in the transition phase became hooked on arts or other creative things like programming. (Programming can often be an art in itself, especially if done for fun.) But today, when I can barely get shit done with all the distractions at my fingertips, I wonder if I could learn the basics before gravitating towards something passive.

The lack of internet on my LCIII as a kid forced me to scour every bit off these dozen or so "Nautilus" CDs we got in the mail. They were like little random chunks of internet. Some demos, software, music, a video (holy crap video on a computer!!!), And lots of written media. It forced me out of necessity to give time to content I never would have bothered with otherwise. Boredom is so healthy.

Sooo many hours with that orbit simulator in Encarta 96 [1] and here I am now, assistant professor in Aerospace Engineering...

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[1] https://youtu.be/Hy9R41Rord0?t=60

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by xxs » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 1:13 PM UTC

Jaruzel wrote: post #209

qwertay wrote: post #127

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Trading card games and D&D is ruining kids.

Those darn stick-and-hoop games are ruining our Victorian kids.

That sort of games do require physical activity, though; plus some verbal contact.

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by xxs » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 1:14 PM UTC

TomMarius wrote: post #178

ittgsv wrote: post #153

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YouTube as a 24/7 entertainment channel for kids is definitely not turning 14 now; it's pretty much a recent phenomenon.

It started with Minecraft "let's play" videos, that was around 2010.

Lets play videos did exist much earlier for quite a few different games.

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by Nasrudith » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 1:15 PM UTC

xte wrote: post #172

A small point: did anybody notice how this reward mechanism prize the "idiocy" far more than the "knowledge"? I mean most followed YT channels, most upvotes on FB etc are about "brainless things", "brainless contents" vs valuable technical or cultural contents. An YT channel about "just for laugh" or "sport" or "how to decorate nails" have FAR more subscribers and viewers than a tech, historic, physics, ... DIY chann…

It rewards popularity in itself. It just happens that most people are at or below average and average isn't anything to write home about. It rewards lower effort for higher returns as well. That also isn't remotely new. Gossip rags sell more than even accessible science magazines let alone journals.

It isn't stupidity in itself that pays. Make a channel of hitting yourself in the groin every day and you won't even break $10k/year.

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by attende_domine » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 1:16 PM UTC

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #143

anonymous5133 wrote: post #115

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Mr. Rogers was different because he was using his influence for social good and to teach positive characteristics/skills/traits etc. The other personalities, do not specifically cater to this. They're more interested in creating a following and creating something that keeps people coming back for more.

Are you saying Mr. Rogers did all of his work for free out of the goodness of his heart? He was a TV personality and totally reliant on ratings to pay the bills. I don't see how YouTube is any different.

Of course Fred had bills to pay as well, but on the whole his motivations were certainly overwhelmingly altruistic. Read his Wikipedia page[1] to get an idea of what drove him to produce Mr. Rogers. Here's an excerpt:

>Trained and ordained as a minister, Rogers was displeased with the way television addressed children. He began to write and perform local Pittsburgh-area shows for youth. In 1968, Eastern Educational Television Network began nationwide distribution of Rogers's new show on WQED. Over the course of three decades, Rogers became a television icon of children's entertainment and education.

>Rogers advocated various public causes. In the Betamax case, the U.S. Supreme Court cited Rogers's prior testimony before a lower court in favor of fair-use television show recording (now called time shifting). Rogers also testified before a U.S. Senate committee to advocate for government funding of children's television.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Rogers

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by grecy » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 1:16 PM UTC

rapnie wrote: post #99

It may not be all that much fun and games.. Half a year ago I saw a documentary (can't remember which), where a number of popular YouTube vloggers were followed to see what being an influencer entails. While each of them were enjoying the good stuff - the money earned, the free gadgets and trips, etc. - in general each of them also felt trapped. To me it seemed like hell to live a life like this. Huge social pressure…

Of course, going to a job for 40+ hours a week feels like being "trapped" to a lot of people. Especially when you throw in a Mortgage, car loan, student loan and some credit cards.

At that point, it's impossible to stop going to work 40+ hours a week.

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by scarejunba » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 1:18 PM UTC

peteretep wrote: post #215

anonymous5133 wrote: post #108

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My GF is an elementary school teacher and she says the amount of kids who are developing anti-social behaviors is increasing pretty rapidly. Kids these days have computers and are basically simply "escaping" to the internet to live in a fantasy world that is disconnected from reality. Some even display active addictions to computer games, like minecraft, while others say they only have friends online in the games or…

> My GF is an elementary school teacher and she says Respectfully, I've spent a _great deal of time_ with elementary school teachers, and many appear very very willing to diagnose random children, adults, and coworkers as being "a bit autistic", and so on. In addition, and assuming wildly here, how old is she? If you're the HN average of about 30, and she's about your age, she doesn't really have a cross-generational…

Seriously, let’s be real. How much experience does this elementary school teacher have with the previous generation? None, probably.

Through all of time we’ve heard this. The current generation is supposedly rubbish in some way the previous generation was not. Instead it’s been the opposite. Each succeeding generation has surpassed the previous in any human quality. I have immense confidence that our collective children will be the same. We are better people than our parents. Our kids will be better than us. No doubt about it.