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Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by merb »

kansi wrote: post #452

Reading this breaks my heart. I have been a Firefox user for almost a decade now and I have good and bad memories with it. Since Quantum release my experience with FF has been nothing but exceptional. On a general day I have around ~15 pinned tabs and more than 50 other tabs open and FF handles it like a breeze. The memory usage is good given the fact that my workload is heavy. On a dual-core machine, I am able to re…

well to be fair sometimes my firefox makes really really strange things. sometimes our internal sites won't work, because firefox resolves a IPv6 address (that is also in our network but for another domain.) when the thing has no IPv6 address.

i.e. git.example.com has the IPv6 and sometimes sentry.example.com resolves the ipv6 of git besides not having any IPv6 AAAA entry at all. I could not find out why that is happing, since it's only happening in FF.

besides that, I also think the developer tools got better, but are still not on par with Google Chrome. (At the moment I primarly use Firefox, besides when the bug occurs than I open these services in Safari or Chrome)

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by timerol »

Rjevski wrote: post #497
moccachino wrote: post #489

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair it does take much more than $20 worth of effort to migrate all your stuff from gmail. How much more I don't know since I've yet to do it, even though I've been paying for another email service for more than a year.

It doesn't take that much more. Office 365's base plan is something like 35£/year, plus around 10£/year for a domain. They offer IMAP import so migrating from Gmail is seamless.

Effort, not money. As a Firefox/gmail user who routinely shits on Google, it's mostly the lock-in of any email address that keeps me coming back. I've actually opened a few paid accounts, but effort to switch is real. I gave up partly through switching over the dozens (100s?) of services that send me emails. I would never get to the point where all of my acquaintances and relatives actually use the new address.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by Karunamon »

jholman wrote: post #271
viswaprasath wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would love to know your favorite add-ons that are broken and not available in AMO for FF57+ some of the contributors during their free time working on to bring extensions. can you share link or about the addon ( https://github.com/firefox-addons/ideas )

As one of the FF faithful, I almost quit when downthemall stopped working. https://www.downthemall.net/

DTA is one of the reasons I’m still pissed at Mozilla to this day.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by btgis »

w3news wrote: post #488

This isnt good for the users, because Firefox respects the user. Firefox is build for the users, and all features are made with the idea that the user has control. Many privacy features are started at Firefox. Chrome isnt a bad browser, but isnt made for the user, it is made for commercial websites/webapps. An example is that Firefox has a good tracking protection system.

Firefox didn't respect me when they sent my data to Cliqz, when they installed Pocket without my permission, when they started showing me ads on my home page, when they remotelly installed a Mr. Robot addon without my permission, and so on. The "Mozilla sides with the user" argument needs to die and be buried already. Mozilla is at best sloppy and at worst as evil as Google is.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by Karunamon »

dralley wrote: post #242
morpheuskafka wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish Mozilla would stop doing so much non-development stuff. Now that Thunderbird is moving on its own, FFox is their only product and yet they waste a lot of time sending out emails about various petitions and similar. They should definitely support pro-Internet petitions as a company (as does Google and others), but IDK why they are now running essentially a mailing list infrastructure for them.

The Mozilla Foundation and the Mozilla Corporation are separate entities.

One funds the other, does it not?

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by bayindirh »

bad_user wrote: post #480
kansi wrote: post #452

Reading this breaks my heart. I have been a Firefox user for almost a decade now and I have good and bad memories with it. Since Quantum release my experience with FF has been nothing but exceptional. On a general day I have around ~15 pinned tabs and more than 50 other tabs open and FF handles it like a breeze. The memory usage is good given the fact that my workload is heavy. On a dual-core machine, I am able to re…

> “ I am tired of listening to people screaming their lungs out about privacy when their actions don't reflect their opinions. ” Those screaming for privacy, like myself, are in fact a small minority. Also regardless of the topic, double standards are rampant in this community. You’ll often see people screaming against Google but still using @gmail.com because paying for a domain and the price of one coffee per month…

The problem with GMail is, it's too convenient to use, and relatively secure because of 2FA support.

Also, people (including me) think that some newsletters, some bills and receipts are not very personal, so people don't care.

I have two main addresses, one is from a local provider and my all financial e-mails and other stuff is coming to that e-mail address, however they don't encrypt anything.

I also just got a free Proton mail, and will upgrade the account when I'm a little better off. Paid e-mail addresses are not meaningless, but they're harder to justify in most people's eyes.

BTW, I never store anything which makes me uncomfortable, anywhere incl. my brain. That's a much better way of living. Not that privacy conscious people is hiding something, but that's my policy.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by lightwords »

Klonoar wrote: post #104
bjz_ wrote: post #9

Been really enjoying Firefox, especially after Quantum. More devs should support and use it, lest we be beholden to Chrome for the rest of time.

I'd support it if it felt like a first-class citizen on macOS. It's ironic that everyone decries Electron for not being native, then says you should use Firefox when it violates so much about the platform that it's not even funny. A bug about overflow scrolling (the default bouncing when you scroll over in macOS) has been open for years. It doesn't fit in.

Pinch to zoom is also non-existent so Firefox becomes useless for a many adults/elderly with poor eye-sight or even just many other users who like to browse and zoom on text/pictures etc. It's so frustrating that this feature is not available in Firefox when you are promoting it. The absence of this feature in my small survey is the main reason people quit using Firefox.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by stult »

merb wrote: post #521
kansi wrote: post #452

Reading this breaks my heart. I have been a Firefox user for almost a decade now and I have good and bad memories with it. Since Quantum release my experience with FF has been nothing but exceptional. On a general day I have around ~15 pinned tabs and more than 50 other tabs open and FF handles it like a breeze. The memory usage is good given the fact that my workload is heavy. On a dual-core machine, I am able to re…

well to be fair sometimes my firefox makes really really strange things. sometimes our internal sites won't work, because firefox resolves a IPv6 address (that is also in our network but for another domain.) when the thing has no IPv6 address. i.e. git.example.com has the IPv6 and sometimes sentry.example.com resolves the ipv6 of git besides not having any IPv6 AAAA entry at all. I could not find out why that is happ…

It's actually turned into a benefit for me that the developer tools suck. I also use FF for browsing and then Chrome for debugging. Which is nice when a coworker is watching me debug over my shoulder because autocomplete never reveals the incredibly basic shit I google on a day to day basis.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by adminu »

merb wrote: post #521
kansi wrote: post #452

Reading this breaks my heart. I have been a Firefox user for almost a decade now and I have good and bad memories with it. Since Quantum release my experience with FF has been nothing but exceptional. On a general day I have around ~15 pinned tabs and more than 50 other tabs open and FF handles it like a breeze. The memory usage is good given the fact that my workload is heavy. On a dual-core machine, I am able to re…

well to be fair sometimes my firefox makes really really strange things. sometimes our internal sites won't work, because firefox resolves a IPv6 address (that is also in our network but for another domain.) when the thing has no IPv6 address. i.e. git.example.com has the IPv6 and sometimes sentry.example.com resolves the ipv6 of git besides not having any IPv6 AAAA entry at all. I could not find out why that is happ…

Turns out firefox uses DNS over HTTPS to resolve DNS names (if enabled), maybe you want to turn that of and check if it changes anything. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Trusted_Recursive_Resolver
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