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Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by jedmeyers » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 9:34 AM UTC

campbellmorgan wrote: post #114

TravHatesMe wrote: post #16

What I find interesting is that many of these youtubers have created personas to appeal to their audience, like true entertainers. However loyal viewers are fooled into this false sense of reality, where they are friends with content creator and this is not a persona at all, he's my friend. Over time, the content creator and the audience share so many moments together, it becomes an emotional bond and a substitute fo…

I think this is the essence of most modern entertainment. I once produced a pilot children's animation and had written a "bible" - the text that sets out what you plan to do for a series - and was told by a senior commissioner in no uncertain terms that modern children's tv series "must take place in the same place with the same characters so kids can come home and watch the show at the same time every day and feel l…

> there should always be a space for government-funded programming and art.

Why is everything people want has to be government funded? Just go ask people for money directly, like a lot of the abovementioned youtube stars do. Tax man with the gun does not have to be involved with this.

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by buboard » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 9:42 AM UTC

There really needs to be some regulation or at least self-regulation for this kind of stuff. This child should remain the exception (this is technically child labor), and advertising to kids on youtube should catch up with TV standards. And i don't think this kind of publicity is doing any good to other children.

Perhaps a startup that helps parents deal with this kind of stuff easier?

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by berkmayer » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 9:44 AM UTC

campbellmorgan wrote: post #124

WalterBright wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> there should always be a space for government-funded programming and art Government funded art doesn't make it pure art, it makes it art that serves the political aims of the bureaucrats charged with doling out the money.

Absolutely. But I for one would rather live in a world that had the diversity of both private and state-funded art, each with their own biases. Surely that's better than the single influence of the market?

You can see you are asking people to fund art that bureaucrats support or go to jail, right?

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by dagw » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 9:48 AM UTC

WalterBright wrote: post #120

campbellmorgan wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is the essence of most modern entertainment. I once produced a pilot children's animation and had written a "bible" - the text that sets out what you plan to do for a series - and was told by a senior commissioner in no uncertain terms that modern children's tv series "must take place in the same place with the same characters so kids can come home and watch the show at the same time every day and feel l…

> there should always be a space for government-funded programming and art Government funded art doesn't make it pure art, it makes it art that serves the political aims of the bureaucrats charged with doling out the money.

Government funded art doesn't make it pure art

Sure, but it's no less pure than art funded by a private benefactor or patron.

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by porjo » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 9:48 AM UTC

I was interested to see that the top 10 earners are all male.[1] I wonder if this is merely a reflection of greater male patronage of Youtube generally but the topics that these top earners are focusing on are not all stereotypically male interests. The 7 year old kid reviews toys which seems quite gender neutral and then there's the makeup artist which, presumably, would be of more interest to a female audience. What is stopping women and girls from dominating Youtube?

[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/natalierobehmed/2018/12/03/high...

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by dagw » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 9:53 AM UTC

WalterBright wrote: post #129

campbellmorgan wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely. But I for one would rather live in a world that had the diversity of both private and state-funded art, each with their own biases. Surely that's better than the single influence of the market?

Consider the explosion of music that's available. AFAIK, none of it is funded by the government, yet there's music for every conceivable taste. Almost no two people have the same taste in art, and what they're willing to pay for. I doubt you'd be living in a world that doesn't have art you like if the government didn't fund it.

AFAIK, none of it is funded by the government

Virtually all governments all over the world have various arts funding schemes that covers music.

That being said I have no strong opinion either way on if that's a good thing or if the music funded this wouldn't have been funded some other way if those schemes hadn't existed

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by _Codemonkeyism » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 9:53 AM UTC

porjo wrote: post #135

I was interested to see that the top 10 earners are all male.[1] I wonder if this is merely a reflection of greater male patronage of Youtube generally but the topics that these top earners are focusing on are not all stereotypically male interests. The 7 year old kid reviews toys which seems quite gender neutral and then there's the makeup artist which, presumably, would be of more interest to a female audience. Wha…

I'd like to know that too, as a recruiting manager I've wondered why there are no more female manager role models and what I can do to change that (and I did change some things in the past).

Recently I saw a woman and man commenting on the chess championship on YT, both excellent chess players.

She tried to impress/be liked by being nice and helpful, he tried to impress/be liked by being powerful. This of course should not be taken as a study but a starting point for some thought - he kind of dominated her appearance (though I guess this wasn't his intention).

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by PunchTornado » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 9:55 AM UTC

porjo wrote: post #135

I was interested to see that the top 10 earners are all male.[1] I wonder if this is merely a reflection of greater male patronage of Youtube generally but the topics that these top earners are focusing on are not all stereotypically male interests. The 7 year old kid reviews toys which seems quite gender neutral and then there's the makeup artist which, presumably, would be of more interest to a female audience. Wha…

why force equal outcomes on such a niche place like Youtube?

on Instagram the top earners are all females. Kylie Jenner makes $1 million per post, Selena Gomez 800k. And it is ok to be like that as Instagram is 70% female.

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by InGodsName » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 9:57 AM UTC

It creates bigger winners and even bigger losers.

There are kids who have been depressed since age 8, no idea when their depression will end.

The number is increasing at huge rate.

There are kids who will look upto these kids and get in competition mode while other kids gonna be depressed because they can't afford or can't do as good as them.

I've no idea if it's good or bad.

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by closeparen » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 10:06 AM UTC

anonymous5133 wrote: post #108

TravHatesMe wrote: post #16

What I find interesting is that many of these youtubers have created personas to appeal to their audience, like true entertainers. However loyal viewers are fooled into this false sense of reality, where they are friends with content creator and this is not a persona at all, he's my friend. Over time, the content creator and the audience share so many moments together, it becomes an emotional bond and a substitute fo…

My GF is an elementary school teacher and she says the amount of kids who are developing anti-social behaviors is increasing pretty rapidly. Kids these days have computers and are basically simply "escaping" to the internet to live in a fantasy world that is disconnected from reality. Some even display active addictions to computer games, like minecraft, while others say they only have friends online in the games or…

I grew up during the transition.

Before I had regular access to technology I spent most of my after-school and recess time staring off into space, pacing around constructing imaginary worlds, and reading YA fiction. I had no interest in my peers, and no idea how to connect with them, years before I ever touched a computer. When I finally did get into the internet, and programming, it was manna from heaven. Now I get to be a productive member of society, staring off into space at my desk and constructing imaginary worlds in the form of software systems for important business purposes. If it weren't for that, I might have wasted away, disintegrated, completely detached from the normal human world.

I dunno. Just because a child has no social life and a lot of screen time, doesn't mean the causality works as you propose. Some of us have a tighter grip on the world of things than the world of people. (It's definitely become more balanced for me, with time).