Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

theverge.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

361–370 of 482 posts

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

#361

Post by mjevans »

soundwave106 wrote: post #255
notyourday wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can't even figure out how to accept credit cards.

That's not a problem of their own making, their payment processors essentially dropped them for (cough) "blood, needles, and vampirism" (per the announcement). See https://pastebin.com/FFSQUML9 and https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/payment-processors-are...

There is a desperate need for a way around these morality police suppressing legal free speech via money:

GNU Taler seems to be that answer, if it would ever actually launch...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18529764 https://cryptosumer.com/2018/11/24/free-software-messiah-ric... https://taler.net/en/index.html

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

#362

Post by everdrive »

leppr wrote: post #344
jacquesm wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These online groups have the same advantage that many other cults have over their victims: they can re-try until they find enough buttons to press that work to bring out the vulnerable people. It's like negotiating against a much more experienced adversary: you're going to lose. The only way to deal with that stuff is not to get exposed to it in the first place. Something similar happens with advertising, there too t…

What does a "pro-ana" group gain from attracting new members ? Seems to me the dynamics are very different from a cult, where members are asked for money/work, and to bring new followers. This is mostly just teens discovering fetishes and sharing them to feel better about it.

There are a lot of valid answers to this, but I honestly feel like they can all be boiled down to the same idea: people organize into groups, no matter what.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

#363

Post by leppr »

> Community members with content that is no longer permitted on Tumblr will get a heads up from us in advance and steps they can take to appeal or preserve their content outside the community if they so choose.

That's the big positive from this announcement. Giving ample prior warning, and even helping the transition will certainly atenuate the feeling of betrayal community members have when being ousted.

I sure wish Yahoo did this during the first "advertiser cleansing", back when they acquired Tumblr.

Instead, I remember the dread as I scrolled through my blog to find 5 to 10% of the carefully curated pictures on it had been censored out, with no warning whatsoever.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

#364

Post by mcbridematt »

trhway wrote: post #66
bvinc wrote: post #21

My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. She was in this gigantic web of pro-ana tumblrs with crazy diet plans that tell you to eat like 100 calories a day. Then the app would just keep suggesting more, "skin and bones", "thinspo", "meanspo". Holy crap there are some scary corners of Tumblr. I of course am more mindful of what she looks at, but she was hiding it and I can't monitor e…

>My daughter at 12 i think websites/pages, like for example movies, should have age restriction in their metadata. >love of free speech as we know children arent capable to give an informed consent and thus free speech (the same way like any issue requiring informed consent like freedom of entering into contract for example or submitting to medical procedure) just isnt applicable when it comes to children as they can…

Didn't we (sort of) try age restriction metadata during the '90's with P3P? (or a closely related technology.. the name escapes me)

If you tightened the settings in Internet Explorer it would only allow you to access sites with P3P data - which was pretty much _nothing_ on the internet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P3P

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

#365

Post by guid_luckWitDat »

trhway wrote: post #178
guid_luckWitDat wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you know that adolescent children are clever enough to lie about their age, AND flout rules enforced by simple button clicks and honor systems?

Browser on locked in system honoring the age metadata would go a long way. It is parental decision whether to give locked or unlocked device to the child.

  locked in system
Is exactly the system they won’t be using on starbucks wi-fi. Laptops are cheaper than console games.

Chrome books cost less than a PS4. You aren’t going to solve this by locking down the client side. Not at school. Not in the home. Not even in federal prison.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_in_prison

You are out of your depth.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

#366

Post by corvos »

dhimes wrote: post #159
pdimitar wrote: post #9

If Verizon bought Tumblr with the sole purpose of having one more service to serve ads to, and if banning the adult content move aims to please the advertisers then oh boy, are they in for a nasty surprise. Tumblr will become a ghost town in days.

This news also seems relevant to the Net Neutrality fight. Once Verizon feels they have to protect us from harmful images or thoughts, where will it stop?

not so much about protecting us as making sure that the content that advertisers get shown next to is "safe" and "brand friendly"

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

#367

Post by corvos »

crazygringo wrote: post #305

Seeing as everyone seems to agree the whole point (if we're being real) of Tumblr is adult content, that there's at least some acknowledgement that there's real societal value in having a safe space for various kinds of healthy adult sexual kinks that are non-mainstream, and that with this move Tumblr will surely pull a Digg and probably disappear for all intents and purposes... ...why isn't Verizon managing to sell…

4chan just split the SFW parts into 4channel for advertiser reasons, so its clearly a feasible idea

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

#369

Post by likeclockwork »

FooHentai wrote: post #325
bilbo0s wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if it was that valuable to you, all of you guys should have gotten together and offered to start paying. The next website you guys find yourselves on, you should really consider paying.

But we were paying. Advertising and data mining are valid payments from a user base.

Those aren't users, those are used. You were the product.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

#370

Post by sparkie »

dictum wrote: post #156

Even Digg didn't set out to die overnight. Come to think of it, of all decade-plus websites, Tumblr is exactly the one for whom suicide is an entirely expected ending. Moody, unique, too obscure for the mainstream but popular enough among the kind of people who would appreciate you. You were the kind to enjoy poetry and inspirational images, but those inspirational images just couldn't give you enough dopamine. You s…

Digg's demise was due to its failure to police their content and to leave it up to the users. I remember it being a fun place, and then it became overrun by do-gooders we called the "bury brigades". Anything remotely interesting or creative got killed and you were left with press-releases from a few big media outlets. A dull news feed.

Many people moved to reddit, but /r/politics is pretty much exactly what became of Digg. If reddit didn't have diversity in its sub communities (and different people moderating them), it would've probably suffered the same fate by now.

Post reply on HN