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Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by groby_b »

noobermin wrote: post #122
village-idiot wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of people over-estimate the resilience of the human emotional state, especially their own. Time and time again we see regular functioning adults get sucked into objectively insane or self-harmful communities, be it the above phenomenon or 4chan crap like QAnon.

How many people follow QAnon or 4chan nonsense? You're over weighting a sheer minority of people who probably have other issues in their lives as for why they chase down conspiracy rabbit holes.

Alas, they don't have "other issues" - because recommendation algorithms drive people down the conspiracy rabbit holes.

Conspiracy, fear, hate - they all drive engagement better than anything else. And since we all optimize for engagement, guess where things are heading. And no matter how resilient you are, there's some really dark shit out there. Ready to tear down even rather healthy people.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by jotm »

michaelchisari wrote: post #84
x0x0 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The vast vast majority of advertisers do not want to be displayed next to porn. Think of tumblr as nothing but a way to get pageviews for Cheerios and Volvo ads. It explains their decisions perfectly.

Every day results in another example of why free platforms supported by advertising might not be viable a long term solution. I've always said that cheap is better than free. If all services like Tumblr had debuted at a nominal $0.25 or $0.50 a month and that had become normalized as a way to support the platform without mining data or being at the whims of advertisers, the internet might be in a better place. Instea…

Maybe pay per (full) view? Granular to 1 view if possible, with thumbnails? People would conserve their views but still watch/view the stuff they like. Better than shitty Chinese ads that make me wary of even opening the Youtube app.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by guid_luckWitDat »

trhway wrote: post #66
bvinc wrote: post #21

My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. She was in this gigantic web of pro-ana tumblrs with crazy diet plans that tell you to eat like 100 calories a day. Then the app would just keep suggesting more, "skin and bones", "thinspo", "meanspo". Holy crap there are some scary corners of Tumblr. I of course am more mindful of what she looks at, but she was hiding it and I can't monitor e…

>My daughter at 12 i think websites/pages, like for example movies, should have age restriction in their metadata. >love of free speech as we know children arent capable to give an informed consent and thus free speech (the same way like any issue requiring informed consent like freedom of entering into contract for example or submitting to medical procedure) just isnt applicable when it comes to children as they can…

Did you know that adolescent children are clever enough to lie about their age, AND flout rules enforced by simple button clicks and honor systems?

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by groby_b »

briffle wrote: post #56
51lver wrote: post #30

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Giving people suggestions based on their profiled interests was a nice toy idea, but it's very dangerous in the real world. I worry about that often with my kid online now.

Its bad in general, for sites like Facebook as well. People are now presented with news and stories that they are predicted arithmetically to like, in order to further "user interaction" (ie, more ad impressions). But this leads to an echo chamber, where people are not exposed to alternative ideas, contrasting viewpoints, etc. (And then, when they are my parents, call it 'fake news' when presented with them).

It's worse. It's not an echo chamber - because the recommendation algos don't keep you with like minded people. They purposefully guide you towards more "engagement". And online, the most engagement can be had by trolling, not by agreeing with each other.

And "contrasting viewpoints" mean little when they're sheer lunacy.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by qwerty456127 »

nine_k wrote: post #130
pdimitar wrote: post #9

If Verizon bought Tumblr with the sole purpose of having one more service to serve ads to, and if banning the adult content move aims to please the advertisers then oh boy, are they in for a nasty surprise. Tumblr will become a ghost town in days.

It looks like a perfect moment to announce a replacement service, complete with a one-click content transfer tool. Something $3/mo, $30/y — and we'll save all your precious work without hassle! Could work for a significant portion of the audience.

Don't you happen to know any alternatives BTW?

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by PeanutNore »

intrasight wrote: post #101
vortico wrote: post #12

Isn't that the point of Tumblr these days? I honestly don't know of any non-adult Tumlbr pages. It seems to consist entirely of premium camgirl pages, NSFW LGBT discussion, furry and hentai art, and artistic nude photography.

I used to use Tumblr a lot - and hardly ever saw any porn. I must have been using it wrong :)

Sounds like you were using it wrong

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by dec0dedab0de »

rurp wrote: post #135
x0x0 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The vast vast majority of advertisers do not want to be displayed next to porn. Think of tumblr as nothing but a way to get pageviews for Cheerios and Volvo ads. It explains their decisions perfectly.

If that's the goal, then why buy a platform that's rife with porn in the first place?

well I think they bought yahoo, and tumblr just came with it.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by taobility »

SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #138
bad_user wrote: post #73

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I think monitoring the child's online activity is a must, until he's mature enough and at 12 years old, that's basically the start of adolescence, when children aren't very trustworthy :-) On the other hand you can't let them know that you're constantly monitoring them, or they will feel suffocated and start a rebellion. In other words I think having some kind of anti-virus software on their computer or tablet, that…

I had a couple mention to me "we don't like to big brother our kids" .... Without thinking I said "big brother when you are the parent is just parenting." made the wife/mother really mad. Not sure what you do when they realizing you're watching them and then just get sneaky about it. I remember being sneaky. I assume my kids will be sneaky.

maybe not provide them the smartphone, and also limited the time of playing tablet?

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by qwerty456127 »

vortico wrote: post #12

Isn't that the point of Tumblr these days? I honestly don't know of any non-adult Tumlbr pages. It seems to consist entirely of premium camgirl pages, NSFW LGBT discussion, furry and hentai art, and artistic nude photography.

They should really just have made another site (which could be fairly easy given they already have the technology developed, just get a new domain, set up a new server instance, tweak the design and that's it) if they want a "clean" one. Tumblr is essentially a porn site, banning all the porn from it to compete with Instagram makes as much sense as banning all the porn from PornHub to compete with YouTube.
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