Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th • Hacker News Board

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by Aeolun » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 8:05 PM UTC

village-idiot wrote: post #115

dvtrn wrote: post #47

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My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. I'm really sorry to hear this, having gone through a similar thing with a now ex-significant other. She too became very active in the segments of tumblr you identified and others (showed me many of them, some seemed like teenage angst in blog form, others were far more...worrisome), developed an eating disorder along with severe anxiety issues…

I think a lot of people over-estimate the resilience of the human emotional state, especially their own. Time and time again we see regular functioning adults get sucked into objectively insane or self-harmful communities, be it the above phenomenon or 4chan crap like QAnon.

I have my own share of mental issues, but I just have a hard time seeing how I could ever get involved in one of these groups, much less believe the bullshit they are spouting.

What is the situation that makes these seem like a solid choice?

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by Canadauni » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 8:06 PM UTC

dvtrn wrote: post #47

bvinc wrote: post #21

My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. She was in this gigantic web of pro-ana tumblrs with crazy diet plans that tell you to eat like 100 calories a day. Then the app would just keep suggesting more, "skin and bones", "thinspo", "meanspo". Holy crap there are some scary corners of Tumblr. I of course am more mindful of what she looks at, but she was hiding it and I can't monitor e…

My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. I'm really sorry to hear this, having gone through a similar thing with a now ex-significant other. She too became very active in the segments of tumblr you identified and others (showed me many of them, some seemed like teenage angst in blog form, others were far more...worrisome), developed an eating disorder along with severe anxiety issues…

It sounds like you did all you could in your situation and you were willing to work through it with her. Empathy and support are really all you can provide in situations like yours. Particularly as a partner there isn't much more you should do other than encourage professional help.

Eating disorders are a complicated class of mental illness with a varying collection of co-morbid issues such as anxiety and depression. I've come to dislike the binary labeling of anorexia and bulimia because the symptomology is so much more complex than the classifications we give them.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by danaris » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 8:06 PM UTC

debt wrote: post #50

rthomas6 wrote: post #26

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As someone out of the loop, can I get an explanation for this?

Too expensive to police. Losing users every month, downward trends, etc. Tumblr has become a money loser and won't ever be competitive with Facebook, TikTok, etc. Another botched acquisition.

> and won't ever be competitive with Facebook, TikTok, etc.

Which is just another example of why the corporate culture today is absolutely insane.

Why can there not be a site like Tumblr that is perfectly stable (leaving aside for the moment whether today's Tumblr is or could become that stable), but is not and could never be "the next Facebook" or "the next Twitter"?

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by notyourday » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 8:07 PM UTC

rmoriz wrote: post #89

azizinnn wrote: post #7

Well, there is a healthy community concerning a particular obscure kink I have been 'given', that is not present anywhere else. I wonder what are suitable places to migrate to.

FetLife

They can't even figure out how to accept credit cards.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by trhway » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 8:09 PM UTC

jstanley wrote: post #166

trhway wrote: post #66

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>My daughter at 12 i think websites/pages, like for example movies, should have age restriction in their metadata. >love of free speech as we know children arent capable to give an informed consent and thus free speech (the same way like any issue requiring informed consent like freedom of entering into contract for example or submitting to medical procedure) just isnt applicable when it comes to children as they can…

> free speech just isnt applicable when it comes to children Are you arguing that free speech must be abandoned, just in case children happen to be listening?

That isnt what I said. What I said is that children mustn't be allowed to some audiences the same way they aren't allowed in bars, porn movies or making legally binding decisions in corporate boardrooms.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by aw3c2 » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 8:09 PM UTC

Keep an eye on https://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Tumblr or join #tumbledown on EFNet to join ArchiveTeam's coordinated, collaborative effort in saving things.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by nzp » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 8:10 PM UTC

bvinc wrote: post #21

My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. She was in this gigantic web of pro-ana tumblrs with crazy diet plans that tell you to eat like 100 calories a day. Then the app would just keep suggesting more, "skin and bones", "thinspo", "meanspo". Holy crap there are some scary corners of Tumblr. I of course am more mindful of what she looks at, but she was hiding it and I can't monitor e…

People don't try to kill themselves, even if they're 12, just because they "get sucked" into some website. There's a deeper reason she went into it than merely being an otherwise merry teenager exploring what's out there.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by trhway » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 8:11 PM UTC

guid_luckWitDat wrote: post #143

trhway wrote: post #66

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>My daughter at 12 i think websites/pages, like for example movies, should have age restriction in their metadata. >love of free speech as we know children arent capable to give an informed consent and thus free speech (the same way like any issue requiring informed consent like freedom of entering into contract for example or submitting to medical procedure) just isnt applicable when it comes to children as they can…

Did you know that adolescent children are clever enough to lie about their age, AND flout rules enforced by simple button clicks and honor systems?

Browser on locked in system honoring the age metadata would go a long way. It is parental decision whether to give locked or unlocked device to the child.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by crooked-v » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 8:13 PM UTC

basic1 wrote: post #59

crankylinuxuser wrote: post #34

I figured the writing was on the wall with that whole garbage static page, along with "Disabled due to safe-mode". Of course, you had to have an account and all its bullshit to 'turn off' safe mode. Whereas, reddit, imgur, pornhub, and all of them have no safe-mode garbage. Reddit has a click-thru if you hit a sub on a work machine (and then you can bail out). But yeah, this is setting a "dead by" date probably 6 mon…

I still haven't figured out how this works, Tumblr smashes the page to 1/3 the screen and displays stuff I don't care about in the center 2/3.

Well, hey, now you won't have to worry about it in two weeks...

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by dvtrn » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 8:13 PM UTC

groby_b wrote: post #141

noobermin wrote: post #122

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How many people follow QAnon or 4chan nonsense? You're over weighting a sheer minority of people who probably have other issues in their lives as for why they chase down conspiracy rabbit holes.

Alas, they don't have "other issues" - because recommendation algorithms drive people down the conspiracy rabbit holes. Conspiracy, fear, hate - they all drive engagement better than anything else. And since we all optimize for engagement, guess where things are heading. And no matter how resilient you are, there's some really dark shit out there. Ready to tear down even rather healthy people.

optimize for engagement

This to me seems like it's the key to all of this, or at least a portion of it that really shouldn't be ignored. As I shared, if my ex had other ongoing issues under the surface, they were never presented and she did a great job keeping the visible symptoms from manifesting for the better part of three years.

Maybe she didn't realize they were there herself, hard to blame anyone for that.

It doesn't seem that remarkable, contentious or incendiary of an idea to wonder if following these blogs and communities infiltrated and started poking at something that was already there, driving a curiosity to dig further, effectively picking at a scab....so to speak. And when the platform responds to your interactions, likes, reshares, searches by pushing more of that in your face, it doesn't seem any more remarkable that someone could find themselves facing mental anguish or other personal/emotional problems that wouldn't have ever otherwise seen the light of day.