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On Being Accused (Neil DeGrasse Tyson)

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In this case, and the case with Andy Rubin, I immediately thought "these people are guilty" - without evidence, without even knowing them or having spoken to them or otherwise having any sort of real judgement about their character. I had to step back and realize that I was jumping to a conclusion prematurely. In case you are not familiar with how the law works (outside of the court of social media), an accusation, n…

There is nothing wrong with suspecting that they are guilty when there are multiple accusers, because you are a person in the court of social media, and not a judge. It's okay to form an opinion without believing that your opinion should be adopted as a legal conclusion!

There's an idea that someone would never accuse another of sexual misconduct because there is nothing to gain. Victims are unfortunately still stigmatized. At the same time, there are those who would lie about sexual misconduct for various reasons including attention, revenge and notoriety. The chance of this happening to a public figure increases exponentially.

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It must be really hard to be in the public eye like this. He probably meets, what? 10,000 people a year? Maybe more? Everyone wants a photo, a snippet of conversation. The chances of saying or doing something stupid go up astronomically. Yes, there are genuine creeps out there. But no, I don’t think you can judge a person by a few “puts foot in mouth” moments. We all do that sometimes, but when you are a celebrity th…

To be fair, they are well compensated for it.

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It must be really hard to be in the public eye like this. He probably meets, what? 10,000 people a year? Maybe more? Everyone wants a photo, a snippet of conversation. The chances of saying or doing something stupid go up astronomically. Yes, there are genuine creeps out there. But no, I don’t think you can judge a person by a few “puts foot in mouth” moments. We all do that sometimes, but when you are a celebrity th…

To be fair, they are well compensated for it.

Sadly I have to agree with you, when you're in the spotlight like that you have to realise that your actions ripple outwards and drive the behaviour of susceptible recipients.

One can argue "he's just a guy, he did something stupid, probably thought it was funny at the time" but that argument falls flat when you consider that some people will use that as an excuse to imitate the behaviour. Even if you're not a creep yourself, the "I was just messing around" excuse isn't good enough when it might enable real creeps to do the same.

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uncharitable reading: "a very creepy thing" Charitable reading: "a funny throw away comment"

That’s the kind of thing a horny fourteen year old boy says. It’s funny to precisely no one.

Really? I bet many people would find it funny. Perhaps not you or your circle, but you don't define the world, his country, state, or community.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s the kind of thing a horny fourteen year old boy says. It’s funny to precisely no one.

Really? I bet many people would find it funny. Perhaps not you or your circle, but you don't define the world, his country, state, or community.

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FTA: > I was reported to have “groped” her by searching “up her dress”, when this was simply a search under the covered part of her shoulder of the sleeveless dress." Umm.. what? If you wondered if Pluto was in her tattoo, why not just ask? Or even make a joke, "Hey, do you have Pluto or did you get it removed like I did?" Actually touching her dress and moving any portion aside is bizarre at best and creepy in many…

The alleged groping:

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p75x225/472313...

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