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H-1B visa shift may favor tech companies

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Re: H-1B visa shift may favor tech companies

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Duh. H-1B has always favored tech companies because it increases the labor supply and indirectly decreases salaries. Perfect example of how companies only want free markets when it benefits them.

Honestly, I was hoping Trump would end the entire program, but who am I kidding? Google and friends spend way too much on lobbying for that to happen.

Re: H-1B visa shift may favor tech companies

#22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with this argument is that you're assuming that there's more offer than demand, when in fact is the opposite. This is why tech companies push hard for the H1-B program. It's possible that there's a large body of citizens with technical degrees that theoretically could fulfill those jobs, but that doesn't mean that they have the skills or the applied knowledge to perform at the standards required for those…

>The problem with this argument is that you're assuming that there's more offer than demand, when in fact is the opposite. I fundamentally disagree with this statement. At top tech companies, I have come across enough mediocre hires who prepared enough for a technical interview to get "in" the company, but are otherwise doing very mundane work or require a ton of direction. In industry, I've come across with even wor…

It might be an artificial shortage for sure. I also have seen terrible programmers and technical people in general gaming the technical interview and getting jobs that are beyond their abilities.

However I do think that is not a binary issue that can be blamed on a single cause.

There's a range of things that could affect the outcome of a hiring decision and if H1-B is one of those reasons (let's say out of bad faith someone hires under H1-B because they want to pay them less), then is obvious that there are many other factors and biases that are affecting the outcome of how technical talent is hired in the US. Croyinsm, sexism, racism, ageism, broken hiring practices, corporate politics; just to mention a few.

Re: H-1B visa shift may favor tech companies

#23

Duh. H-1B has always favored tech companies because it increases the labor supply and indirectly decreases salaries. Perfect example of how companies only want free markets when it benefits them. Honestly, I was hoping Trump would end the entire program, but who am I kidding? Google and friends spend way too much on lobbying for that to happen.

There is zero possibility Trump or the republicans are going to do anything to raise wages relative to revenue, even if it were a side effect of whipping of ethnic rage. For the democrats, the possibility rounds to zero.

Re: H-1B visa shift may favor tech companies

#24

Duh. H-1B has always favored tech companies because it increases the labor supply and indirectly decreases salaries. Perfect example of how companies only want free markets when it benefits them. Honestly, I was hoping Trump would end the entire program, but who am I kidding? Google and friends spend way too much on lobbying for that to happen.

You realize that those companies will just open up offices elsewhere if they can't bring people here, right?

Re: H-1B visa shift may favor tech companies

#25
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Why not just go to an auction system, where the group that is going to give the highest salary gets the visa? You could adjust it for CoL so all H1Bs don't end up in SF and NYC. What would be bad about this system?

Who picks how many spots to auction off? Is there any rational basis for that number or is it just some kind of random 'out of your ass' political thing?

https://johnhcochrane.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-optimal-numbe...

Re: H-1B visa shift may favor tech companies

#27
post #25
post #9

Why not just go to an auction system, where the group that is going to give the highest salary gets the visa? You could adjust it for CoL so all H1Bs don't end up in SF and NYC. What would be bad about this system?

Who picks how many spots to auction off? Is there any rational basis for that number or is it just some kind of random 'out of your ass' political thing? https://johnhcochrane.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-optimal-numbe...

Just set it to equal the current number of h1b slots

Re: H-1B visa shift may favor tech companies

#28
post #13
post #9

Why not just go to an auction system, where the group that is going to give the highest salary gets the visa? You could adjust it for CoL so all H1Bs don't end up in SF and NYC. What would be bad about this system?

In such a system, maybe only experienced hires would get visas and fresh graduates wouldn't.

And that's bad because?

Re: H-1B visa shift may favor tech companies

#29
post #9

Why not just go to an auction system, where the group that is going to give the highest salary gets the visa? You could adjust it for CoL so all H1Bs don't end up in SF and NYC. What would be bad about this system?

The big companies with huge pockets will set up shop in small low CoL places and squeeze out smaller research companies out of talented graduate students in high expertise niche fields like research in EE, AI etc. They will be able to outbid anyone local easily since they're already paying a lot for them in SF/NYC/DC/Seattle/Portland/Austin etc.

That would possible be good for the low cost areas. Right now everybody crowds in high cost areas so if this would cause them to spread out I think this would be good for the country.

Re: H-1B visa shift may favor tech companies

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with this argument is that you're assuming that there's more offer than demand, when in fact is the opposite. This is why tech companies push hard for the H1-B program. It's possible that there's a large body of citizens with technical degrees that theoretically could fulfill those jobs, but that doesn't mean that they have the skills or the applied knowledge to perform at the standards required for those…

>The problem with this argument is that you're assuming that there's more offer than demand, when in fact is the opposite. I fundamentally disagree with this statement. At top tech companies, I have come across enough mediocre hires who prepared enough for a technical interview to get "in" the company, but are otherwise doing very mundane work or require a ton of direction. In industry, I've come across with even wor…

>I don't believe there's a shortage of talent in this country.

Do you have any experience in hiring people? East coast here and its impossible to find citizens who can code FizzBuzz. Those that can already have a job and don't come to interviews.

There are multiple thousands of very high paying security related job openings that need citizens only, because of clearances.

Zero percent unemployment: https://cybersecurityventures.com/cybersecurity-unemployment...

https://www.monster.com/career-advice/article/tech-cybersecu...

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