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Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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post #134

If your country has "democratic" in the name it's probably not democratic. If your major has "science" in the name it's probably not science. If your company has "don't be evil" in its motto...

So Computer Science is Engineering?

Only if you're good.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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IANAL, but 35 U.S. Code § 115 requires that "each individual who is the inventor or a joint inventor of a claimed invention in an application for patent shall execute an oath or declaration" that they believe "himself or herself to be the original inventor or an original joint inventor of a claimed invention in the application," and acknowledging "that any willful false statement made in such declaration or statement…

It is. And since recently there is even case law and supreme court decision for this:

https://www.patentdocs.org/2018/10/supreme-court-denies-cert...

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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post #27

Similar story and time as Google ANS patent: https://arstechnica.com/features/2018/06/inventor-says-googl...

It was sad to read the thread where Jarek Duda introduces himself to the WebM codec developers group and suggests using Asymmetric Numeral Systems for VP9 / AV1.

Then he notices patent applications about his algorithm and asks Google to help: "Maybe Google could help fighting with it?"

It seems that Google helped by patenting it themselves??? So sad.

https://groups.google.com/a/webmproject.org/forum/#!topic/co...

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cool ours syncs audio on any IP device..desktop, laptop, tablets, phones, IOT devices, whatever

Is that not a fairly simple technology? You're basically measuring latencies (for which there exist very accurate solutions) and accounting for clock drift (again not difficult - USB audio did that many many years ago). I guess you can get fancy if the devices have microphones but I still think it wouldn't be difficult. Like one man-year worth of work.

Creating a web player that syncs audio across all types of IP devices where you can play, pause, fast forward, seek within a track & more as seen in this video isn’t trivial!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ9itwp_wYc&index=20&list=UU...

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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Regina Dugan is a former head of DARPA as well as ATAP. She has an impressive resume. Why would she do something like this? For a not particularly important patent, LED popup books? It seems bizarre. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regina_E._Dugan

Disclaimer: I am a Google employee, who isn't listed as inventor on any patents here. I don't speak for Google and all the usual blah blah. In my experience outside of Google, typically how this works is that you will get a visit from product counsel asking if you have any patent-able work. It's not your job to ask if it's novel enough; that's the patent lawyers job. So they bug you for months while you are trying to…

No reason to take what is not yours, there is no room here to justify such even if the system is broken.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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post #15

Leah Buechley is the PhD advisor, Regina Dugan is Google ATAP, Joi Ito is Media Lab but... who is the first person speaker of the text? Am I missing something obvious or is it really omitted? Edit: possibly (probably?) https://twitter.com/qijie

Maybe the page was edited since your comment, but it says "Author: Jie Qi" at the bottom of the page.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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I met/had a similar experience with Google ATAP in 2013 (was Motorala ATAP then; Google recently bought them) though not for a job interview but to discuss working together to build our tech SpeakerBlast into the Moto X. They asked if we ever thought about selling our technology to them before the meeting and at the meeting they baited us for how our tech worked saying we'd like to work with you tell us how it works.…

That sounds downright awful.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True, but I didn't see that she identified herself, or her gender, in the article. So what's a commenter to do? That's an honest question. Mangle to use "they"? Use some genderless pronoun that'll piss off x% of readers?

> True, but I didn't see that she identified herself, or her gender, in the article. So what's a commenter to do? Simple. 1. Assume an ostensibly correct pronoun of your own choice (like you did) 2. If someone corrects you, optionally acknowledge the correction and apologize if applicable, then use the correct pronoun henceforth 3. Ignore the overly gender-obsessed people who tell you that you should have used ugly o…

Calling "they" an ugly or cumbersome construct seems like a reach. I am a native english speaker, and the use of that word to describe people with unknown characteristics (such as criminal suspects and people with obscured features or seen from a distance) has been very common even before the gender-obsessed people took root. It is merely english.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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post #15

Leah Buechley is the PhD advisor, Regina Dugan is Google ATAP, Joi Ito is Media Lab but... who is the first person speaker of the text? Am I missing something obvious or is it really omitted? Edit: possibly (probably?) https://twitter.com/qijie

It's very interesting that she is launching the PandaPatents site using her story as the impetus to help people navigate patent law. I haven't had time to look at it, but it sounds like an interesting idea.

I hope this catches on - it looks like there's already a second good story on the HN frontpage, about patent issues with crowdfunding.

I'm always impressed at how big a difference it can make to go from "people know this is a problem" to "there's a central place to see what this problem looks like and how much damage it can cause".

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