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Twilight of the Taj Mahal

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Re: Twilight of the Taj Mahal

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Post by mikekchar »

osrec wrote: post #30
balladeer wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. I am a resident Indian who has lived and travelled outside. But what you have described - the ruthlessness - is universal. In EU, SG, JP, SK, AU, UK etc and yes of course definitely in USA. Just that that ruthlessness is garbed in nicer clothes there. In India medical sector pushing families to bankruptcy is seen as ruthlessness and abroad it’s called “oh, they didn’t have (the right) medical insurance” amon…

Disagree. The NHS in the UK is free. And they don't stop till you're either better or dead. The US health system is messy, but that's no example to go by. In India, they're not just nitpicking your insurance policy, but doing underhand things like pumping warm water into clinically dead victims to give their families false hope, so they keep paying the ICU fees (anecdote from a friend - he was eventually alerted to t…

The thing that blows me away about the NHS is that it will even pay for emergency treatment for tourists!

Re: Twilight of the Taj Mahal

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Post by yumraj »

osrec wrote: post #33
yumraj wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, while his father was being paid reasonably well according to you - he is employed by your father's firm, which leads me to believe you grew up with considerably more resources to be able to pursue your passions then the child in question. As such, the argument still applies that not everyone has an ability or an opportunity to pursue their passions .

My personal situation, on a relative scale, is rather more tragic. I would suggest you not to make that assumption about my upbringing, for you would be quite incorrect.

Fair enough, mea culpa.

However, my argument (stated differently) that passion is a luxury that not everyone can afford, still stands.

Re: Twilight of the Taj Mahal

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osrec wrote: post #10

"Incredible India", as the country's tourism slogan claims, is fast disappearing. I know this may get downvoted by fans of India, but I'm just saying it as I see it. If it matters, I'm of Indian origin too. First of all, India has everything it needs to be amazing. A young workforce, driven, technical people, a nice selection of flourishing industries, bucket loads of natural resources and abundant sources of renewab…

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Re: Twilight of the Taj Mahal

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Post by msiyer »

The monument is being neglected. The current government has an attitude which is very similar to ”not invented here" whereby anything not created by Hindus is not to be valued: https://www.firstpost.com/india/yogi-adiyanath-govt-in-uttar...

Hinduism is not a religion like Islam or Christianity. People in India behave as if it is. Our past was glorious. It, however, cannot guarantee a similar future unless people wake up.

Re: Twilight of the Taj Mahal

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Post by kamaal »

mc32 wrote: post #3

Though maintenance is an issue, I’ve been told another issue is craftsmanship. It was slapped together by slaves to serve as a tomb for the third wife of an emperor who had a harem of 2000 women yet saw it fit to drag his favorite into the battlefield for his comfort (she succumbed to complications bearing no. 14 in the 19th year of her marriage). They might as well let it crumble. It's a grotesque monument which tou…

>>It was slapped together by slaves

>>They might as well let it crumble. It's a grotesque monument which tourists adore.

How do you think they built the Pyramids of Giza or the Colosseum of Rome?

Re: Twilight of the Taj Mahal

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Post by newen »

nitwit005 wrote: post #28

It might be under-repaired, but entering "Taj Mahal maintenance" into Google shows there are tons of travel articles on their maintenance efforts, and which parts will be under repair when. It seems a bit questionable that this is totally omitted.

I went to the Taj Mahal this July and there were lots of repairs being done.

Re: Twilight of the Taj Mahal

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Post by kinleyd »

osrec wrote: post #10

"Incredible India", as the country's tourism slogan claims, is fast disappearing. I know this may get downvoted by fans of India, but I'm just saying it as I see it. If it matters, I'm of Indian origin too. First of all, India has everything it needs to be amazing. A young workforce, driven, technical people, a nice selection of flourishing industries, bucket loads of natural resources and abundant sources of renewab…

Spot on. You described it very well. As a citizen of a country neighbouring India I find this reality saddening.

Re: Twilight of the Taj Mahal

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Post by kamaal »

osrec wrote: post #33
yumraj wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, while his father was being paid reasonably well according to you - he is employed by your father's firm, which leads me to believe you grew up with considerably more resources to be able to pursue your passions then the child in question. As such, the argument still applies that not everyone has an ability or an opportunity to pursue their passions .

My personal situation, on a relative scale, is rather more tragic. I would suggest you not to make that assumption about my upbringing, for you would be quite incorrect.

>>My personal situation, on a relative scale, is rather more tragic.

Everybody's is.

Imagine what goes in the mind of a boy, who is living and watching crores of people starving in his country.

Unless you have abundance for everyone, every ones gathers what they can for themselves.

Re: Twilight of the Taj Mahal

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Post by kamaal »

osrec wrote: post #36
blocked_again wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed wholeheartedly. The word passion is over hyped. And it makes very less sense especially when we are from a poor country like India where people run to make their ends meet.

Are we really poor? Or are we just badly managing ourselves? Seriously, in a country as naturally rich as India, there is no reason for people to be emaciated with poverty during peacetime. If only we had more passionate people willing to stamp out inefficiency and corruption. And btw, passion is not over-hyped - in my experience, it's almost vital when trying to improve your own or society's situation.

>>Seriously, in a country as naturally rich as India, there is no reason for people to be emaciated with poverty during peacetime.

India is not a rich country. Natural resources are not what make one rich. Its human resources.

The human resources development project has been abandoned ever since Jawaharlal Nehru died.

Re: Twilight of the Taj Mahal

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Post by blocked_again »

osrec wrote: post #36
blocked_again wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed wholeheartedly. The word passion is over hyped. And it makes very less sense especially when we are from a poor country like India where people run to make their ends meet.

Are we really poor? Or are we just badly managing ourselves? Seriously, in a country as naturally rich as India, there is no reason for people to be emaciated with poverty during peacetime. If only we had more passionate people willing to stamp out inefficiency and corruption. And btw, passion is not over-hyped - in my experience, it's almost vital when trying to improve your own or society's situation.

> . And btw, passion is not over-hyped - in my experience

I think people who are passionate in CS/I.T field are lucky that it also happens to be one of the highest paying fields in India. I don't think that applies to all sectors. Even people who are passionate about CS/IT and are not from a good college struggle to find a job in India. I consider myself lucky to have my passion lie in programming and passing out from a good college.

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