This is, the 7.3 MUSD to be paid, plus the prorated expenses to compensate the employees handling the case, plus court fees, plus travel expenses, etc., but ignoring factors like lost sales, other fines and settlements, etc.; is the final figure still around 7.3 MUSD, or would it be significantly more?
Lenovo to pay $7.3M for installing adware in laptops
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Re: Lenovo to pay $7.3M for installing adware in laptops
#42Didn't they also install some malware in UEFI at one point? Which is even worse, since you can install Linux on Lenovo laptops wiping out their pre-installed (but non refundable) Windows, but you can't easily replace UEFI there.
They did have a firmware-based malware dropper. The "only" thing it did was re-infect clean Windows installations, so installing Linux would still mean you'd be fine as the second stage wouldn't be dropped, but of course that's not a technical limitation - they could have built it to also infect Linux, but didn't.
The dropper was passive, abusing a Windows mechanism designed for installing vendor software, in which Windows looks for such software and executes it.
Linux does not go diving in UEFI looking for executables to run.
Re: Lenovo to pay $7.3M for installing adware in laptops
#43IBM Thinkpad t43p was my first heavy duty laptop. In 2005 IBM made a mistake that someone in their management must regret to date, selling Thinkpad laptop line to Lenovo. Things went downhill for Thinkpads and I lasted 3-4 more generations before finally giving up. Thinkpad had a shot at being the world's most loved laptop, by developers and businessman on the go. Passion for great products and great user experience…
But even then, why should anyone at IBM care what happened to the brand after they sold it? I know some creators love their product lines and such and care about posterity, but, IBM!
Re: Lenovo to pay $7.3M for installing adware in laptops
#44I recently was asked by my girlfriends sister to help her choose a laptop. After finding a model that looked good spec-wise I searched for that same model but without Windows pre-installed. It was 150€ cheaper. Then I got a 10€ Windows 10 key from ebay, installed O&O ShutUp and Winaero Tweaker and now it almost feels like a great system that you can actually work with. Vendor-bloatware has been bad since Windows 7 bu…
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#47I recently was asked by my girlfriends sister to help her choose a laptop. After finding a model that looked good spec-wise I searched for that same model but without Windows pre-installed. It was 150€ cheaper. Then I got a 10€ Windows 10 key from ebay, installed O&O ShutUp and Winaero Tweaker and now it almost feels like a great system that you can actually work with. Vendor-bloatware has been bad since Windows 7 bu…
A rather unfair comparison, don't you think? That's like saying "I got a really good deal on a Macbook, all I had to do was pick it up and sprint out of the Apple store!"
Re: Lenovo to pay $7.3M for installing adware in laptops
#48IBM Thinkpad t43p was my first heavy duty laptop. In 2005 IBM made a mistake that someone in their management must regret to date, selling Thinkpad laptop line to Lenovo. Things went downhill for Thinkpads and I lasted 3-4 more generations before finally giving up. Thinkpad had a shot at being the world's most loved laptop, by developers and businessman on the go. Passion for great products and great user experience…
Re: Lenovo to pay $7.3M for installing adware in laptops
#49I recently was asked by my girlfriends sister to help her choose a laptop. After finding a model that looked good spec-wise I searched for that same model but without Windows pre-installed. It was 150€ cheaper. Then I got a 10€ Windows 10 key from ebay, installed O&O ShutUp and Winaero Tweaker and now it almost feels like a great system that you can actually work with. Vendor-bloatware has been bad since Windows 7 bu…
There are no legitimate Windows licenses that only cost 10€. They may activate but successful activation does not imply that you are not breaching Microsofts license agreement and they may decide to deactivate those licenses at any time
Re: Lenovo to pay $7.3M for installing adware in laptops
#50IBM Thinkpad t43p was my first heavy duty laptop. In 2005 IBM made a mistake that someone in their management must regret to date, selling Thinkpad laptop line to Lenovo. Things went downhill for Thinkpads and I lasted 3-4 more generations before finally giving up. Thinkpad had a shot at being the world's most loved laptop, by developers and businessman on the go. Passion for great products and great user experience…
Thing is, Thinkpads are still the best productivity laptops on the market. Which isn't to say that your observations aren't true, but more of a comment on the general state of that market...