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> No in the U.S. a handful out of a million cops are bad apples “One bad apple spoils the whole bunch”. It may be a small number are directly-acting abusers of minorities. A much larger number, however, are active defenders of that small number against any accountability.

How so? Look at all the body cam and dash cam legislation.

Look at evidence planting, lying in police reports, refusal to prosecute those bad apples.

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No in the U.S. a handful out of a million cops are bad apples. Some legitimately find themselves in difficult-to-interpret life-or-death snap decisions on a daily or weekly basis and they get paid 1/4 or less of what some privileged engineer on HN does. And then a few bad apples plus a few legitimate accidents are over-analyzed as some proof of systemic racism in one of the most diverse countries on earth. Meanwhile,…

ACAB. The entire police system is inherently corrupt and racist and needs to be torn down. Also, regardless of whether or not its a few bad apples (hint: given how extremely fucking common these problems are, it absolutely is not just a few) the point still stands that the "not bad" cops are still guilty of supporting their coworkers and enabling their unacceptable behavior.

No it's not. You have no idea how to build a better criminal justice system. Your armchair HN comment about it is absolutely worthless. It lacks insight, research, balance, and depth of any kind, not to mention practical experience in the system itself. You want to remake a complex system? Go and learn the pros and cons of it, spend a few years in it, then come back and tell people how it can be improved.

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> At least in the US you have constitutional rights and somewhat efficient check & balances to limit abuses. I assume you're white?

This is a mental comparison. Leaving aside police gun deaths because that's it's own insane internal logic/world, do you think that black people in the US don't have more rights than Chinese citizens? So for example, what do you think would happen in both countries if a senior party official punched you on the street?

> what would happen ... if a senior party official punched you ...

Well we know what happens in the US, at least if you’re a journalist

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Jacobs_(journalist)#Gian...

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A pity. If you're looking for a 8-inch android tablet then the Huawei is a good offer - reasonable price, recent OS version, usb-c connector. I don't know of another to match it.

This is about ISP equipment (routers and such), not consumer stuff.

You can get the aforementioned Huawei 8-inch tablet in Europe. You can't in the USA. So there does seem to be an impact on Huawei consumer stuff.

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Can I ask, who exactly is an ally of the USA at this point? Up here in Canada, and from talking to my friends in the UK, nobody is a fan of that country, for reasons like: - It's corrupt-at-best[1], ignorant[2], contradictory[3] and racist[4]-at-best leadership, not to mention the fact that the general populace was ignorant enough to vote for that leadership, even if the popular vote[7] showed someone else won, the c…

I'm from the UK and I'm extremely grateful that the USA is an ally. All politicians are self-interested and every now and again they'll do something I shake my head at but as a general rule the US people are good people and over the years have sacrificed their loved ones and spent breathtakingly large amounts of money to keep my little island (amongst others) in peace during my lifetime for very little in return.

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Really? Do you think the US government would use your information in a more or less restricted way than the Chinese? Would your answer change if you were: a) a citizen of the US, b) a citizen in China, c) a citizen of a country where china has massive influence, d) a citizen of a country where the US has massive influence, e) a citizen of a strongly independent country? Your answer is so baffling to me that I checked…

Canada. Well, the US is using national security as a reason to urge people to drop Huawei. Meanwhile it's an obvious economic as well as soft power play. In recent years we've had several trade disputes with the US, illegal immigrants pour in to our borders from the US, and US sponsored environmental activists have disrupted many of our natural resource industries. So can't say I'm too keen on the US attempting to re…

Well, they aren't exactly an equal partner, but it isn't bad. Your PM signed a mutual extradition treaty with them and you accept any investment they want to make while they don't need to make any concessions to you so they have no reason to be.

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I openly wonder and worry if China will ever reach a point where it has the influence to extend its social credit system beyond its borders? Imagine you can't do business with China unless you agree to be spied on and data collected? Perhaps if you've ever criticized China you suffer further consequences?

You mean in a manner similar to the united states at the moment? :^) China has some serious issues, but people acting like this is out of the norm is ridiculous. The US is afraid of Chinas rising influence/power and these sorts of articles attacking it are a common tactic. Like, great - there's no explicit social credit system in the US on an app where you're barred from leaving the country because of who you're frie…

Yes, it's better to be obvious - so at least you know you're in for systematic torture by police in order to obtain a confession and everyone is SURE women and minorities don't deserve equal rights.
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