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China Expands Research Funding, Luring U.S. Scientists and Students

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Re: China Expands Research Funding, Luring U.S. Scientists and Students

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Post by JesseAldridge »

eindiran wrote: post #13
JesseAldridge wrote: post #9

I've been looking into topic modeling lately. It looks like this is the best library for doing that: https://github.com/baidu/Familia Time to learn Mandarin I guess.

It looks like there are English docs too: https://github.com/baidu/Familia/blob/master/README.EN.md

Yeah, but they are apparently out of date: https://github.com/baidu/Familia/issues/70

And the pretrained models it ships with are trained against a Mandarin corpus.

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Post by DenisM »

sytelus wrote: post #36

TLDR; China has started the The Thousand Talent program to recruit professors from all over the world: http://www.1000plan.org/en/ . Also, Chinese govt now offering international students scholarships to cover the cost if they enroll: https://www.scholarshipsads.com/china-scholarships/ .

Oh my, the name could hardly be more unfortunate as it evokes the "Let a 1000 flowers blossom" campaign.

https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/226950.html

Re: China Expands Research Funding, Luring U.S. Scientists and Students

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Post by echevil »

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #35
echevil wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well I guess the first step would be luring Chinese scientists currently in US back to China (many of those have US citizenship and would also be counted as US scientists)

I work with lots of Chinese scientists and they say they are never going back. They don't trust Chinese papers or labs at all.

I'm sure there are lots of Chinese scientists that would never go back, but at the same time there're also plenty of Chinese immigrants (including scientists) actually went back or are considering going back when the time is right, including myself. I think overall more people are considering that as a viable option over the years.

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Post by quotemstr »

Frankly, it's embarrassing how an absolutist regime can create a sense of more on-the-ground intellectual freedom than can a supposedly free country. Socially enforced censorship of painfully obvious facts in the west has gotten out of control, and unless we place limits on our newfound authoritarian impulses, we're going to be out-competed. While it's true that we've been very successful for a long time, success breeds complacency. Objections to things like genetic editing of humans on vague ethical grounds will just leave the advantage with others.

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Post by killjoywashere »

echevil wrote: post #22
thatcat wrote: post #8

Is there a good English translation service for Chinese research?

Unlikely, but most Chinese scientists would still publish their best research in English journals/conferences.

That's true of most scientists from non-English-speaking countries. By the by, there's a market for proofreading those translations (e.g. ThinkScience for the Japanese-to-English market). You won't learn Chinese, but if you're learning Chinese, it might be a good way to see how the Chinese make mistakes going back to English.

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Post by nyolfen »

joefranklinsrs wrote: post #26
amaccuish wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where on earth did you get that from? Which part of the article, or any evidence at all, supports your statement? And in what situation do you think it's acceptable to write in such a way?

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none of those links support your insane claim about genetic experimentation on babies

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Post by citilife »

fooker wrote: post #38
citilife wrote: post #3

I don't really think China is luring too many U.S. scientists... Most of the scientists I know pretty much ignore research out of China, because a large portion of it is just not replicable (and / or lies).

Please look at the number of papers from China in top CS conferences. In general, the reviews are double blind, making it as objective as possible at this moment. Example: https://nips.cc/Conferences/2018/Schedule

Arguably most CS papers / presentations are not replicable because many don't share the data.

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Post by TTPrograms »

fooker wrote: post #38
citilife wrote: post #3

I don't really think China is luring too many U.S. scientists... Most of the scientists I know pretty much ignore research out of China, because a large portion of it is just not replicable (and / or lies).

Please look at the number of papers from China in top CS conferences. In general, the reviews are double blind, making it as objective as possible at this moment. Example: https://nips.cc/Conferences/2018/Schedule

For those wondering, I just clicked through a few randomly and I only saw ~1/10 from China, and it was fairly applied (i.e. not especially novel research). I'd be interested in a more thorough analysis.

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Post by PavlovsCat »

amaccuish wrote: post #14
joefranklinsrs wrote: post #7

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Where on earth did you get that from? Which part of the article, or any evidence at all, supports your statement? And in what situation do you think it's acceptable to write in such a way?

> And in what situation do you think it's acceptable to write in such a way?

In what situation do you think it's acceptable to look the other way?

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