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China Expands Research Funding, Luring U.S. Scientists and Students

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Re: China Expands Research Funding, Luring U.S. Scientists and Students

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>I would look at it a different way: this is akin to Hitler Germany hiring nuclear scientists and eugenics specialists from US.

Well, speaking of "nuclear scientists", only one country has dropped nuclear bombs on civilians, and it wasn't China.

Re: China Expands Research Funding, Luring U.S. Scientists and Students

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I've been looking into topic modeling lately. It looks like this is the best library for doing that: https://github.com/baidu/Familia Time to learn Mandarin I guess.

Fascinating. Also in such a situation. What makes Familia the best vs. gensim/NLTK?

Re: China Expands Research Funding, Luring U.S. Scientists and Students

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Where on earth did you get that from? Which part of the article, or any evidence at all, supports your statement? And in what situation do you think it's acceptable to write in such a way?

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How is this relevent to this article?

Your specific claim was that scientists are being recruited from abroad for work on these things, except, they're not ("Except this time, China is hiring for genetic specialists to experiment on Uighur babies in concentration camps").

Trying to shove some other agenda into anything China-related is becoming really dull. You're trying to start some sort of ideological war when we really should be discussing science funding.

Re: China Expands Research Funding, Luring U.S. Scientists and Students

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where on earth did you get that from? Which part of the article, or any evidence at all, supports your statement? And in what situation do you think it's acceptable to write in such a way?

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How on earth do you not know to google? And in what situation do you think it's acceptable to keep asking people to post easily found links?

You can easily find stuff about western gene-editing research and plans, just not a 'me first' for babies:

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/608350/first-human-embryo...

China's cameras? Well, the US is the surveillance champion of the world. Maybe search "snowden". And unlike China, it also violates my privacy as a European.

>"Time to Address China's Expanding Nuclear Weapons Program"

Actual action, not mere "program": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_a...

And air-pollution? Do you know how US cities were back in the day? Or even today? And that's without being the world's top manufacturer...

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/08/10/southern-californ...

Re: China Expands Research Funding, Luring U.S. Scientists and Students

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I don't really think China is luring too many U.S. scientists... Most of the scientists I know pretty much ignore research out of China, because a large portion of it is just not replicable (and / or lies).

Well I guess the first step would be luring Chinese scientists currently in US back to China (many of those have US citizenship and would also be counted as US scientists)

I work with lots of Chinese scientists and they say they are never going back. They don't trust Chinese papers or labs at all.

Re: China Expands Research Funding, Luring U.S. Scientists and Students

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China has started the The Thousand Talent program to recruit professors from all over the world: http://www.1000plan.org/en/. Also, Chinese govt now offering international students scholarships to cover the cost if they enroll: https://www.scholarshipsads.com/china-scholarships/.

Re: China Expands Research Funding, Luring U.S. Scientists and Students

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How on earth do you not know to google? And in what situation do you think it's acceptable to keep asking people to post easily found links? You can easily find stuff about western gene-editing research and plans, just not a 'me first' for babies: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/608350/first-human-embryo... China's cameras? Well, the US is the surveillance champion of the world. Maybe search "snowden". And unlike…

> And unlike China, it also violates my privacy as a European.

I'm happy to agree that U.S. surveillance activities violate your privacy, but I'm not sure you should say "unlike China" in this context.

Re: China Expands Research Funding, Luring U.S. Scientists and Students

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I don't really think China is luring too many U.S. scientists... Most of the scientists I know pretty much ignore research out of China, because a large portion of it is just not replicable (and / or lies).

Please look at the number of papers from China in top CS conferences. In general, the reviews are double blind, making it as objective as possible at this moment.

Example: https://nips.cc/Conferences/2018/Schedule

Re: China Expands Research Funding, Luring U.S. Scientists and Students

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post #32

I've been looking into topic modeling lately. It looks like this is the best library for doing that: https://github.com/baidu/Familia Time to learn Mandarin I guess.

Fascinating. Also in such a situation. What makes Familia the best vs. gensim/NLTK?

I mainly look at the ratio of stars to open issues. I find this to be a very good heuristic:

http://repoq.com/baidu/Familia/

http://repoq.com/nltk/nltk

http://repoq.com/RaRe-Technologies/gensim

http://repoq.com/lists/natural_language_processing

Re: China Expands Research Funding, Luring U.S. Scientists and Students

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I agree that the comparison to Hitler is a non sequitur. However, as a citizen in a democracy, I am pretty sure the writer of that posts intends it to be a criticism of an authoritarian dictatorship and not China's people or people of Chinese descent.

I'm sure he's not a monster. Thing is, Americans find it very hard to see us as anything other than monsters. It's exhausting to try and have a conversation when the interlocutor is ready to terminate it at any point because s/he decides that you are either evil or brainwashed. (To me, that's where the real prejudice lies - the inability to imagine other people as moral, not just intellectual, equals) I should also s…

As an American, I'm sorry and I agree with your criticism of that rhetoric.
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