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Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by flukus »

glitchc wrote: post #239
simias wrote: post #214

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I agree. I'm mostly a C coder but I've been on the Rust train since pretty early and I remember being pretty confused when they started putting emphasis on the Rust branding with logos, the whole "rustacean" thing, conferences, forums etc... In hindsight I get it but originally there was a bit of a culture shock. I mean I don't wear C T-shirts and as far as I can tell there's not really a standard C logo either. Mayb…

C has always had a defacto logo: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5e/The_C_Program...

There's also a theme song: https://i.imgur.com/Yd00GWf.gif

There's a youtube version with singing around somewhere but I can't link from work

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by beefhash »

baby wrote: post #257
dman wrote: post #256

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Fortunately not everyone makes technical decisions using the wisdom of crowds.

If people would switch to Rust and stop writing C the world would probably be a safer place yes.

Given Rust's spotty platform support[1], I don't see that happening anytime soon.

[1] https://forge.rust-lang.org/platform-support.html

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Post by eksemplar »

lettergram wrote: post #40
mikestew wrote: post #36

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Of the ones you list, only one has a wide focus, IMO. Three of those will essentially be web development conferences, and I don't know what the hell people do with Go these days, but I'll bet it's mostly a handful of things. Python probably has broad enough usage and scope to counter what I said. The exception proves the rule. :-)

Python is probably mostly data science if I had to guess. jupyter notebooks have made python excessively used for data science.

I don’t know about that, Django is arguable still the most productive web-framework.

I mean, I like JS as much as everyone else and graphql is better with Apollo than it is with graphene, but I can make a full django app and deploy it before I’m even done looking over the changes to my JS packages that have occurred since I used them last.

Hell, even if you want to use vue or react, I still find django more productive than node, Apollo and prisma. And that’s not mentioning flask.

So I’d wager that python powers a fairly large part of the web, and with good reason.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by ManDeJan »

saagarjha wrote: post #169
monocasa wrote: post #24

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Seriously, check out TI's C++ support for their DSPs. Last time I checked they were so behind the curve they didn't even support templates.

That might because they are targeting Embedded C++, which explicitly eschews these features.

Template metaprogramming is very useful on embedded :) https://github.com/kvasir-io/kvasir

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by pjmlp »

kahlonel wrote: post #268
pjmlp wrote: post #245

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For strange that it may seem to youngsters, that capability is not unique to C. https://www.mikroe.com/mikropascal-pic https://www.mikroe.com/mikrobasic-pic http://www.astrobe.com/default.htm https://www.ptc.com/en/products/developer-tools/apexada https://www.ghs.com/products/ada_optimizing_compilers.html Some examples of non-C languages used in production code for doing stuff with hardware.

Not going to spend $250 on an ugly looking IDE that forces me to work on a Windows PC.

Then better not work on tne embedded industry, as that is the OS of choice for like 99% of the SDKs, even C based ones targeted at Eclipse CDT.

Which I guess is also beautiful then.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by Oreb »

SiVal wrote: post #222
mikestew wrote: post #19

Because though there might be building trades conferences, there are no hammer conferences. Oh, there will be tool vendors at the building trades conferences, there might be sessions on "Efficient Hammering Techniques Using Machine Learning", but there are no conferences about hammers. Don't forget about the blacksmith conference next week, they'll have hammer vendors, too. I dunno, a Ruby conference kinda makes sens…

To find the answer, I would ask, Why are there conferences for other technologies? What are they for? And I think the answer is probably 1) get useful news about recent and upcoming changes and 2) to socialize. I'm going to guess--possibly just projecting--that most C developers are older and not terribly interested in meeting new "C friends" or jumping into some hot, new "C startup". That leaves #1. Web/AI-ML/cloud/…

> It’s almost like news about algebra

There are plenty of algebra conferences, though. I’ve been to several. :-)

I agree with your general point, but algebra isn’t quite as slow-moving as you seem to believe.

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Post by bdukic »

Felz wrote: post #270
rickycook wrote: post #212

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and off a bridge? sounds like a JS conference

I can't resist. C conference: Address is past the end of the street. C++ conference: Reading the address requires working out an elaborate series of compile-time templates that finally resolves to the actual address. You go there to find that it's past the end of the street. JS conference: The address is "the last place we held it". You attempt to figure out what that means, but you didn't attend last year. After som…

Python conference: the conference was abruptly cancelled after the social event which went awry when couple of attendees got into a fight over mixed tabs.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by StreamBright »

noselasd wrote: post #264
StreamBright wrote: post #159

Why arent there hammer conferences? IT is the only industry that is super obsessed with tools.

Not really. There's tons of conferences/trading shows and obsession for machining tools, woodworking tools, HVAC systems, welders, plumbers, cleaning tools, construction tools, tattooing tools, sewing, etc.

"CONFERENCES

Plastics Conference

Apr 30, 2019

AWS developed this conference featuring the latest advances in manufacturing, fabrication, installation and examination related to thermoplastics welding and joining.

Shipbuilding / Aluminum Conference

Sep 17, 2019 - Sep 19, 2019

Industry experts will deliver the latest research and innovations in both the Shipbuilding and Aluminum industries. Aluminum is one of the most versatile and widely used metals in manufacturing, but its unique chemical and physical properties can also make it one of the most challenging to weld. The critical importance of welding in the shipbuilding industry will also be addressed by providing current information on emerging technologies being developed for shipbuilding applications.

2019 Aerospace Joining Conference

Sep 23, 2019 - Sep 26, 2019

To bring together experts from Research & Development, Manufacturing and Applications in the areas of advanced welding and brazing, adaptive manufacturing, single crystal repair and advanced repair technologies for the aerospace and IGT engine industries.

2019 Welding Industry Summit

Oct 15, 2019

SAVE THE DATE

This year's Summit will be a combination of interactive presentations, panels, and round table discussions intended to give each attendee current information on how more value can be brought to their welding operations, plans, and projects."

Does any of these look like to you as a single tool conference?

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by hasahmed »

akira2501 wrote: post #279
dymk wrote: post #193

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I think you swapped the complexity that each language provides. If C is anything, it's the patty, and C++ literally everything else that makes up the burger.

> C++ literally everything else that makes up the burger. "Oh, you wanted mayo on your burger? We can do that, but you also have to have mustard. Don't worry, you won't have to pay for it.. but it's going to be in there."

And ketchup and ranch and oyster sauce and a pizza and a slice of cheese cake and a jackhammer
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