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Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by noselasd »

pjmlp wrote: post #245
varjag wrote: post #226

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Which scene? You still learn C to get work done with hardware, like it on not.

For strange that it may seem to youngsters, that capability is not unique to C. https://www.mikroe.com/mikropascal-pic https://www.mikroe.com/mikrobasic-pic http://www.astrobe.com/default.htm https://www.ptc.com/en/products/developer-tools/apexada https://www.ghs.com/products/ada_optimizing_compilers.html Some examples of non-C languages used in production code for doing stuff with hardware.

And you'll struggle upstream if you go that route. Pretty much all vendors for embedded platforms only provide C libraries/drivers/examples/subsystems/documentation.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by pjmlp »

noselasd wrote: post #261
pjmlp wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For strange that it may seem to youngsters, that capability is not unique to C. https://www.mikroe.com/mikropascal-pic https://www.mikroe.com/mikrobasic-pic http://www.astrobe.com/default.htm https://www.ptc.com/en/products/developer-tools/apexada https://www.ghs.com/products/ada_optimizing_compilers.html Some examples of non-C languages used in production code for doing stuff with hardware.

And you'll struggle upstream if you go that route. Pretty much all vendors for embedded platforms only provide C libraries/drivers/examples/subsystems/documentation.

The compiler vendors I listed are vendors for embedded platforms, they also sell boards.

The problem, as expressed multiple times on C++ conferences, is the devs that are religiously against anything that isn't C89 + language extensions + Assembly.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by noselasd »

StreamBright wrote: post #159

Why arent there hammer conferences? IT is the only industry that is super obsessed with tools.

Not really. There's tons of conferences/trading shows and obsession for machining tools, woodworking tools, HVAC systems, welders, plumbers, cleaning tools, construction tools, tattooing tools, sewing, etc.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by andy_ppp »

Because C is simple and not very interesting without an associated topic?

I’m also not sure what you’d sell to C programmers.

But maybe there should be one - with some good marketing it could do quite well I suspect.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by mactrey »

crispyambulance wrote: post #213
badpun wrote: post #113

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They are a waste of your employer’s time. For you they’re great, you’re still getting paid, but don’t have to work.

> They are a waste of your employer’s time... Yet it is employers who [often] pay for employees to go to these things? Hmmm, why do you think that is?

It's because non-monetary benefits are a good way to attract talent in a tight labor market, which is more or less how the software developer market has been for the past twenty years. Developers like going to conferences, so they like working for employers who pay for them to go.

Think about why tech companies provide ping-pong tables and nap-chambers (obviously unproductive) and yet Wal-Mart isn't sending its warehouse workers to warehousing industry conferences (presumably at least somewhat productive).

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by mywrathacademia »

klodolph wrote: post #149
holografix wrote: post #124

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I’m a beginner in Go and not an expert in Python. However Python is a lot easier to develop with than Go: generics, no pointers, standard collections have many convenience functions, package handling, etc.

Saying that Python has "no pointers" is a bit of an oversimplification, somewhere between "technically true, but misleading" and "actually incorrect", depending on how you define your terms and frame the question. Remember that Java has "no pointers" too, it works basically the same way Python does (except for some minor quibbles about primitive types), except if you go to 4.3.1 of the Java SE 11 spec and look for "p…

Out of curiosity, is b [1]? Or if b receives a copy of a, then b would still be an empty list, i.e. []. Not sure what answer you're expecting.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by kahlonel »

pjmlp wrote: post #245
varjag wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which scene? You still learn C to get work done with hardware, like it on not.

For strange that it may seem to youngsters, that capability is not unique to C. https://www.mikroe.com/mikropascal-pic https://www.mikroe.com/mikrobasic-pic http://www.astrobe.com/default.htm https://www.ptc.com/en/products/developer-tools/apexada https://www.ghs.com/products/ada_optimizing_compilers.html Some examples of non-C languages used in production code for doing stuff with hardware.

Not going to spend $250 on an ugly looking IDE that forces me to work on a Windows PC.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by xtracto »

DonHopkins wrote: post #133
spydum wrote: post #126

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I agree with your point but HammerFest 2019 sounds like a freaking blast. I think there is an underserved market there.

Sëë yä thërë düdë! http://www.hammerfest.co.uk/

Haha, I would definitely go there. I went to Donington festival and Wacken while I lived in Europe. Too bad there are no good metal festivals on this side of the world (American continent).

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Post by Felz »

rickycook wrote: post #212
plg wrote: post #190

I tried going to one once but the address I had for the conference center pointed past the end of the street ?!?!?

and off a bridge? sounds like a JS conference

I can't resist.

C conference: Address is past the end of the street.

C++ conference: Reading the address requires working out an elaborate series of compile-time templates that finally resolves to the actual address. You go there to find that it's past the end of the street.

JS conference: The address is "the last place we held it". You attempt to figure out what that means, but you didn't attend last year. After some research, you find a copy of last year's invitation. Its address reads "the place where we always hold the conference". After more research and a bit of guess work, you finally arrive, but nobody else is there. You have a sinking feeling the conference wasn't in Uzbekistan after all.

TS conference: As JS, but the invitation includes a helpful explanation of how to find where "the last place we held the conference" is. Unfortunately, one of the explanations is wrong, and you arrive in Uzbekistan.

Java conference: To calculate this year's address, you must first go to a JavaConferenceFactory on the outskirts of town. Talk to the JavaConferenceFactoryManagerSingleton, and give him your JavaConferenceConfiguration. He can give you a JavaConference, which you can cast to a JavaConferenceImpl. The JavaConferenceImpl contains a JavaConferenceAddressLocator, which when passed a WorldMappingSystem can give you a JavaConferenceAddress.

Haskell conference: There is no conference. Holding one could cause side effects.

Go conference: The address is given in a simple, predictable format: interface{}.

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