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Re: Never connect to ProtonMail using Chrome

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You don't need anything, just the user's affirmative confirmation in response to the prompt, "Are you 18 or older?"

and what happens after 6 months, or a year? you keep nagging the user if it's 18 or not?

People don't age backwards, so the question doesn't need to be asked again.

Re: Never connect to ProtonMail using Chrome

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Heh,google's entire business model is sharing your data with third parties. Is it better because they filter out some details? Also,Chrome might be more secure from a vulnerability point of view but browser exploits(exploit kits) are not a very common means of deploying malware these days. They tend to focus on IE and flash these days: https://blog.malwarebytes.com/threat-analysis/2018/03/exploi...

Can you point to some links on Google sharing data with third parties? AFAIK they don't share any data. You want to target a certain demographic they will target for you but they won't pass on the data. They keep the data internal. If you install some 3rd party app and give that app permission to access your data they'll give that app the access you requested them to give but otherwise no sharing AFAIK.

If I target users based on a specific criteria and I know they came from google then that information about them is passed. Raw data isn't much use anyways,that's why google and fb aren't afraid to share with users what they collect. The analysis and targrting donewith that data is what users should be concerned about.

Re: Never connect to ProtonMail using Chrome

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I would make the advice more general: avoid dealing with Google. Recently I had to install Hangouts app on the Android phone (it was easier than using it on desktop because I don't have the latest Chrome). One has to register a Google Account in order to use it, and I had to answer a lot of questions as if I was applying for a visa, including a phone number (of course I used a fake number) and date of birth. Then the…

Jesus that is such a god-awful dark pattern. It kinda breaks my heart to read this. I guess I'm locked into the iphone ecosystem for a while, despite their exorbitant prices. Sigh. Too bad that Ubuntu phone died on the vine.

Purism is making a promising go at this right now though!

Re: Never connect to ProtonMail using Chrome

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What are Firefox Quantum's egregious privacy issues? All I'm aware of is the encrypted DNS experiment which is a huge, unqualified privacy win. I'm not aware of anything it does that's objectively worse than the privacy catastrophe which is the status quo. Perhaps you are angry because it doesn't send your DNS requests in the clear to Google's 8.8.8.8 service? Perhaps you are angry because you don't like encrypted co…

Perhaps you are making assumptions without merit? Off the top of my head, forced telemetry (even if you turn it off in about:settings some stuff gets reported back to Mozilla); Pocket and Sponsored Tiles, the former sends Mozilla the URL and form data for every site you visit, the latter has complete access to your browsing history so it can show you "relevant info"; Adobe DRM and Encrypted Media Extensions (some peo…

Literally all of these are (debatably) controversial from a PR perspective, not from an actual privacy perspective. Most of them aren't even privacy issues, which suggests to me that you haven't even researched them.

More generally, if any of these things actually offend you, I'm sorry to tell you but you're not the audience for a web browser—after all, general web browsing is far, far worse. Every website you visit gets your IP address and your user agent string. Ooooh noooo.

Re: Never connect to ProtonMail using Chrome

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What are Firefox Quantum's egregious privacy issues? All I'm aware of is the encrypted DNS experiment which is a huge, unqualified privacy win. I'm not aware of anything it does that's objectively worse than the privacy catastrophe which is the status quo. Perhaps you are angry because it doesn't send your DNS requests in the clear to Google's 8.8.8.8 service? Perhaps you are angry because you don't like encrypted co…

This is making a lot of assumptions about GP's reasons. They should probably have explained in the first place, but give them the chance to before suggesting they're angry about something they never brought up, please.

The GP is being hysterical. A pile of whataboutism and false equivalence.

Re: Never connect to ProtonMail using Chrome

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So why are you still using Chrome?

He is talking about supporting chrome as a client browser, not using it personally.

Ah, right, I misread the original comment. Thank you for the correction.

Re: Never connect to ProtonMail using Chrome

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Then the title should reflect this. At the moment the title seems to imply (wrongly) that this is something specific to ProtonMail. I took the comment to be about clarity.

Right that would be nice but people usually submit the original subject and the admins usually enforce that they do. Often you can get away with light editing for clarity when submitting a link but it's just something to be aware of.

I would do something like "never connect to using Chrome", but yeah, policy is probably less important than content.

Re: Never connect to ProtonMail using Chrome

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I find I can replace just about everything Google makes except for Google Docs & Google Sheets. I wish I could find self-hosted, open-source versions of those, which I would install on my own server. I can just use desktop apps and sync the files through my server with git or rsync when I'm the only user (but using multiple clients), but as you're saying about the general public, for sharing with friends and family,…

Maybe LibreOffice online would fill the role? It is still pretty new, but showing great potential. https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-online/

Sorry I'm late getting back to this, but thanks for the suggestion. I hadn't heard of an online version of LibreOffice, so I'll definitely check it out. I really hope there will be a way to have the benefits of server-based word processors and spreadsheets without handing our private data to people whose business is profiling us.
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