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Re: Chess World Championship: Stockfish live-analyzing game 7

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Post by semi-extrinsic »

fermienrico wrote: post #23

On a side note: I think Pentagram did an amazing job with the WCC branding [1] in 2014. It's ridiculously non-conventional for a serious organization such as FIDE to adopt it. They did reject the proposal for Shuka Design for the new "pawnographic" (as it was hastagged on twitter) logo [2] for the 2018 championship and only kept the arms tangled up around a chess board. Still, its extraordinary and personally I love…

> serious organization such as FIDE

It's wort noting that up until recently, FIDE had a president who was full-on batshit crazy. He repeatedly claimed in public that he had been abducted by aliens. He (and by implication FIDE under his rule) was sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury for financial involvement in the war in Syria. Corruption was an open secret. It's a bit of a stretch to call FIDE under Ilyumzhinov a "serious organization".

Re: Chess World Championship: Stockfish live-analyzing game 7

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Post by billfruit »

russellbeattie wrote: post #67
foobaw wrote: post #6

Another nail-biting draw!

It's hard to change a game that's so old, but draws shouldn't be allowed, only stalemates. Imagine if the Lakers played the Warriors, and late in the 4th quarter, the game is tied, and LeBron and Curry decide they are tired, declare a draw and go to their locker rooms. Not particularly satisfying.

Perhaps a doubling cube can be used like in backgammon, ie, one player can up the ante, in a draw-ish situation. Ie, staring at a draw, one player says: let's play for a win, but at double the points, if the other player accepts game continues. If other player rejects the doubling, he is considered to have conceded the game at the original 1pt stake.

Re: Chess World Championship: Stockfish live-analyzing game 7

#103

Post by shard972 »

School-Cotton wrote: post #37
walrus01 wrote: post #28

Dumb chess question from a person that's never competed, why are international chess rankings divided by Male or Female? There are even olympic sports now that are mixed-gender such as Curling.

There aren't different ratings, but there are women-only tournaments, championships, and so on. The reason is just that there are a lot fewer women in elite chess than men. For example, Hou Yifan, the #1 woman in the world in terms of rating, is 91st overall.

How is chess allowed to make a move like this in 2018? Imagine if facebook in response to complaints about not enough female representation responded by creating female only teams?

They really should get rid of these archaic female only leagues.

Re: Chess World Championship: Stockfish live-analyzing game 7

#104

Post by tzs »

msvan wrote: post #71
narag wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you win any game?

Caruana was a GM at 14. Unless EGreg is a very strong player, I don't think he was able to beat Caruana.

EGreg said it was when Caruana was "like 14" suggesting he isn't sure of the age. If the park was in the US, Caruana was probably actually 12, because that was when he moved from the US to Europe.

At 12, he was "only" around 2150 FIDE.

Re: Chess World Championship: Stockfish live-analyzing game 7

#105

Post by zzo38computer »

shard972 wrote: post #103
School-Cotton wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There aren't different ratings, but there are women-only tournaments, championships, and so on. The reason is just that there are a lot fewer women in elite chess than men. For example, Hou Yifan, the #1 woman in the world in terms of rating, is 91st overall.

How is chess allowed to make a move like this in 2018? Imagine if facebook in response to complaints about not enough female representation responded by creating female only teams? They really should get rid of these archaic female only leagues.

You are correct, I think; chess does not need to be segregated by gender. It also does not need to be segregated by skin colours, religions, or how many letters in your name.

Rather, to have the segregation by blitz or full time controls, but some players can be in both if they want to do.

Re: Chess World Championship: Stockfish live-analyzing game 7

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Post by stale2002 »

shard972 wrote: post #103
School-Cotton wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There aren't different ratings, but there are women-only tournaments, championships, and so on. The reason is just that there are a lot fewer women in elite chess than men. For example, Hou Yifan, the #1 woman in the world in terms of rating, is 91st overall.

How is chess allowed to make a move like this in 2018? Imagine if facebook in response to complaints about not enough female representation responded by creating female only teams? They really should get rid of these archaic female only leagues.

If people don't like that tournament, then they should feel free to not compete in it. That's their choice. Don't like it? Then ignore it.

Re: Chess World Championship: Stockfish live-analyzing game 7

#107

Post by stale2002 »

taneq wrote: post #69
dgut wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chess, besides its usual characteristics it's known for, is an attack and dominance game. Women will naturally be less interested/good at that. The championships aren't male only (although there are female only championships).

Women aren't naturally less interested in or good at chess. There must be some other explanation for the top 90 chess players all being male.

No. Instead it is culture that tends to make less women be interested in chess. This is still a problem, though.

Re: Chess World Championship: Stockfish live-analyzing game 7

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Post by ycombinete »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #101
fermienrico wrote: post #23

On a side note: I think Pentagram did an amazing job with the WCC branding [1] in 2014. It's ridiculously non-conventional for a serious organization such as FIDE to adopt it. They did reject the proposal for Shuka Design for the new "pawnographic" (as it was hastagged on twitter) logo [2] for the 2018 championship and only kept the arms tangled up around a chess board. Still, its extraordinary and personally I love…

> serious organization such as FIDE It's wort noting that up until recently, FIDE had a president who was full-on batshit crazy. He repeatedly claimed in public that he had been abducted by aliens. He (and by implication FIDE under his rule) was sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury for financial involvement in the war in Syria. Corruption was an open secret. It's a bit of a stretch to call FIDE under Ilyumzhinov a "seriou…

Before such claims one/both of you would have to define what "serious organization" means when you use it, as it would appear that you might be equivocating relative to how he used the term.

Re: Chess World Championship: Stockfish live-analyzing game 7

#109

Post by zzo38computer »

stale2002 wrote: post #106
shard972 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is chess allowed to make a move like this in 2018? Imagine if facebook in response to complaints about not enough female representation responded by creating female only teams? They really should get rid of these archaic female only leagues.

If people don't like that tournament, then they should feel free to not compete in it. That's their choice. Don't like it? Then ignore it.

That is true, yes. But still I think that tournament is unnecessary. They can have such tournament if they want to do (since, nothing stops you from also having other tournaments too, which can include everyone), but I would not advise it.

Re: Chess World Championship: Stockfish live-analyzing game 7

#110

Post by toolslive »

walrus01 wrote: post #28

Dumb chess question from a person that's never competed, why are international chess rankings divided by Male or Female? There are even olympic sports now that are mixed-gender such as Curling.

There's no "men's" competition in chess. In tournaments, you see men, women, children, blind and other chess players battling each other. Moreover, some women (Judith Polgar who was top 10 for a long time, is the best known example) refuse to compete in woman-only events. However the main reason why there is a separate competition for women, children, blind, ... is that there is a market for it.
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