So it’s a replacement for macOS that looks just like macOS? Hmm...
Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS
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#92Some of the comments here feel weird. Elementary OS has picked a specific niche, and its arguably the best distribution in it. It has a really well designed and consistent UI experience, and you can't break it. I think most of you just don't realize how difficult linux is for people who barely understand how to use a Mac or Windows machine. Furthermore, linux is a world where mainstream distributions still release wi…
xfce is quite beautiful the default theme is just dated. you pick something else and its fine
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#93Seems pretty interesting, I might try it out later. Does anybody have experience using this to revive an old computer (ie make it faster and more useable)?
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#94To be a macOS replacement, an OS needs to work well on Apple hardware. Does Elementary OS now work well on Apple hardware? The last time I tried it, it did not.
With the T2 chip only macOS can run on Apple hardware now.
That's not true at all: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208330
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#95Some of the comments here feel weird. Elementary OS has picked a specific niche, and its arguably the best distribution in it. It has a really well designed and consistent UI experience, and you can't break it. I think most of you just don't realize how difficult linux is for people who barely understand how to use a Mac or Windows machine. Furthermore, linux is a world where mainstream distributions still release wi…
Desktop Linux isn't really that difficult. It could be easier. The thing is that the people who want "really easy" probably aren't going to bother installing any new OS. Microsoft and Apple work hard, not just to make their OS easy but update their OS to whatever random hardware or software thing has come out (games and printers, say). Not being able to do "this one thing" is the main complaint I hear from friends who randomly wind-up with desktop Linux from computer recyclers mostly (it's my complaint too at times).
Also, elementary OS looks a lot like the "gnome shell" and latest Ubuntu thing. Mint/Mate has become the main Linux shell by staying with Window 7-like-shell. The newer shells are easier but less powerful. So it would win for those who want easy. Except those who want easy will do nothing and stay with MS/Apple. After they are "free" too or seem like that to the average person.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fedora is my daily driver, and I think it really strikes a good balance between stability, security, and bleeding edge. Having said that, I hesitate to recommend Fedora to newbies. Some things about it can be scary and unpredictable. SELinux is enabled by default, and gnome shows audit2allow notifications every time there is an AVC denial. Someone coming from windows will be scared by seeing dozens of errors the very…
Do you use a high DPI display? How is that? I'm reticent to give up my 5k screen and crisp text when programming but I'd love to use Linux as my daily driver (as much as I like macOS).
It's a complete mess. I tried to switch from macOS to Linux Ubuntu running wayland gnome. HiDPI is sort of ish there. Spotify definitely isn't and weird stuff going on in other apps too.
The touch pad is not even remotely comparable with macOS. No inertia scrolling and overall a clumsy feeling.
Shearing when scrolling is common. The entire UI stutters if I compile some rust in the background.
Key bindings are inconsistent and all over the place.
UI defaults are totally weird with screen estate given up to absurd use cases.
System tray icon are stretched. Debian just released a glibc that completely broke electron. So no slack, vscode or spotify until that was sorted by a third party ppa.
I'm running screaming back to the Mac.
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#97I don't like the "Pay What You Want" system they have to download the OS. It feels misleading that you have to click on custom then enter 0 to download for free. I totally understand how important donations are to keep a project going but this one rubs me off the wrong way. I hope I'm not the only one.
This is a pretty common practice in the arts - Louis CK and Radiohead both used this to great effect.
Indeed, my recollection is that Radiohead made more money on their album In Rainbows doing 'pay as much as you want' than their label paid them on previous records.
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#98Question: This may pertain more to GTK, but does gtk/elementary os have an equivalent to macOS's core animation libraries? Particularly to support interactive / fluid interfaces (see https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2018/803/ )? I did a cursory look and couldn't find much.
I've been fairly familiar with macOS development particularly for trying to do more experimental UI (fluid animation) the past few years, but have been staring at linux/elementaryOS more.
Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS
#99Some of the comments here feel weird. Elementary OS has picked a specific niche, and its arguably the best distribution in it. It has a really well designed and consistent UI experience, and you can't break it. I think most of you just don't realize how difficult linux is for people who barely understand how to use a Mac or Windows machine. Furthermore, linux is a world where mainstream distributions still release wi…
I agree. I would be using Linux full time if the experience was not so jarring all the time. Fonts and themes are off, stuff gets jumbled around, things are wildly inconsistent. You end up spending lots of time doing weird hacks to make everything look alright. Even Elementary will break if you move outside the core applications - it cannot be helped in this ecosystem.
When Linux works for you it's so damn great but I cannot fully enjoy a UI that is so inconsistent and ugly so often.
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#100What kind of apps does Elementary OS support? Can I install .deb packages or other Linux-compatible ones? Otherwise it's going to be hard to adopt an OS if there are not enough of the apps I use, no?
I’ve been using elementary OS for the past two years or so; you can use everything that runs on Ubuntu which of course includes .deb packages.
That's great!
For some reason I thought it was an incompatible new platform.