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Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

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Some of the comments here feel weird.

Elementary OS has picked a specific niche, and its arguably the best distribution in it. It has a really well designed and consistent UI experience, and you can't break it. I think most of you just don't realize how difficult linux is for people who barely understand how to use a Mac or Windows machine.

Furthermore, linux is a world where mainstream distributions still release with horrible UI experiences with numerous typography mistakes, icons of different sizes and grid alignment imbalances everywhere.

Like check out this Mint (grey theme) screenshot: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Li... and compare it with elementary OS here https://news-cdn.softpedia.com/images/news2/elementary-os-0-...

Mint is great, but seriously. Look at that logo render. Even worse, look at the start bar. Every single text and logo has a different height. I mean how do you even do something like that unintentionally?

I am using XFCE right now, and it's great because its much faster than KDE or Gnome on this old laptop. But it sure isn't a pretty UI. I know a MSc. designer and she claims using my laptop makes her physically sick and dizzy. I don't care as much, but I can see the point. Everything is misaligned, in the start menu, the task bar, the apps. In the window bar the buttons and the minimize arrow aren't the same size. I mean seriously, whoever did this just did not care about Ui.

I don't think ElementaryOS is for everyone. If you have any interest in non-standard repos, recent kernels or doing stuff in commandline, you are just better off elsewhere. I understand their choices, but I don't use it because of how they do the app store, among other things.

But if you just want a computer that runs, looks good and doesn't break if you do X, then I think ElementaryOS is the #1 choice in the Linux world, and we should be thankful that it exists.

Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

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I'll be honest.. I tried elementary os when they first released it but never got it's charm. It always felt like an inferior version of macOS... Which I don't like. I personally prefer to develop on a Linux install... But elementary OS is not what I'd use if Linux is an option

imo It's a Chrome OS alternative meant to be used by people who aren't technical.

Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

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I'll be honest.. I tried elementary os when they first released it but never got it's charm. It always felt like an inferior version of macOS... Which I don't like. I personally prefer to develop on a Linux install... But elementary OS is not what I'd use if Linux is an option

I was looking at screenshots of the first couple releases yesterday. I’m not surprised if you were unimpressed. I would have been too.

The latest release looks worlds better. If it’s been a couple years since you checked it out, try taking the Juno live ISO for a spin.

Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

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I’ve been using elementary OS for the past two years or so; you can use everything that runs on Ubuntu which of course includes .deb packages.

Does it support snaps as easily as Ubuntu does?

I’ve never used a snap, but I believe they have a snap manager in the curated section of their App Store, and it looked pretty straightforward.

Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

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Fedora is my daily driver, and I think it really strikes a good balance between stability, security, and bleeding edge. Having said that, I hesitate to recommend Fedora to newbies. Some things about it can be scary and unpredictable. SELinux is enabled by default, and gnome shows audit2allow notifications every time there is an AVC denial. Someone coming from windows will be scared by seeing dozens of errors the very…

Do you use a high DPI display? How is that? I'm reticent to give up my 5k screen and crisp text when programming but I'd love to use Linux as my daily driver (as much as I like macOS).

High DPI on Linux is okay if you're using a monitor you can run at an integer scaling factor, e.g. 1x, 2x, 3x. Fractional scaling is still officially supported by Gnome (I'm not sure about other desktops), so you have to do some hacks with xrandr and the Gnome scaling UI.

Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

#88

The project is interesting and I have to give it props for being one of the few Linux distros that’s put the necessary level of thought into UI/UX and made consistency a priority. That said, I question some of their technical choices, most namely the choice of Vala as the project’s official language. Not that Vala is bad, but it’s incredibly niche at best and I think it severely limits contributions. Not many are goi…

I think its part of that UX consistency you were praising. Vala's got 'nice' coupling with Gnome in the same way C# has 'nice' coupling with the Windows UI.

valac also compiles to C so no weird ABI stuff. No external runtimes or VMs required. I hate to say it but Gnome did something pretty neat with Vala.

Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

#89

The project is interesting and I have to give it props for being one of the few Linux distros that’s put the necessary level of thought into UI/UX and made consistency a priority. That said, I question some of their technical choices, most namely the choice of Vala as the project’s official language. Not that Vala is bad, but it’s incredibly niche at best and I think it severely limits contributions. Not many are goi…

This kind of attitude towards less popular programming languages is very damaging to the field of software engineering. Domain-specific languages are our best tool to combat the excessive complexity of software. The difficulty of learning a new programming language is overblown.

Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

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post #5

I'll be honest.. I tried elementary os when they first released it but never got it's charm. It always felt like an inferior version of macOS... Which I don't like. I personally prefer to develop on a Linux install... But elementary OS is not what I'd use if Linux is an option

MacOS is an inferior version of BSD!

Jokes aside, I've always wondered why people don't try to get more user adoption for BSD.
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