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Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by wbond »

craftyguy wrote: post #319
wbond wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This, unfortunately is not as true as I wish it was. I bought an RX 560 and tried to install Ubuntu 18.04. It could not propery drive my 4k display that uses DP 1.2 MST. That display has been working fine with a few different cards on Mac and Windows since 2014 when I bought it. I even tried the AMD pro drivers. Granted, the open source nvidia drivers couldn’t do it with a 1030 on 18.04 either, but the proprietary on…

I have no problems running my RX 580 with the amdgpu driver and recent versions of Mesa.. If I had to guess, Ubuntu 18.04 has some archaic versions of both the kernel and userspace drivers.

Do you have a 4K display that requires DP 1.2 MST?

I tried the latest proprietary amdgpu-pro drivers also.

I even bought the RX 560 because some other Linux users assured me the AMD Linux drivers were excellent. My post here is to help other people so they can make a more informed choice in the future.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by autoexec »

ovao wrote: post #312
autoexec wrote: post #297

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> . If you were willing to pay > $1000 for software and services there was no reason for companies to maintain an Ad business. Let's be honest though, if a company can make money doing something they most likely will do it. It wouldn't matter if you paid $100,000 a month to use windows, if they could make an extra $1000 selling your personal information and pushing ads at you they will.

If that were truly the case, wouldn’t Apple and Canonical be doing exactly that?

Ubuntu did infest their OS with ads (via amazon). Last I checked they still did but backlash caused them to disable it by default. I can't speak to apple's data collection and ad practices but I'm guessing they've been doing some form of both.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by bromuro »

jammygit wrote: post #44

All I want is to be able to give companies my money in exchange for not being spied on, manipulated, or locked into some walled garden. I can't for my OS - I have to use free gnu/Linux because everyone else treats me like crap. Is my money not good enough for them? This is getting absurd

Absurd yet Microsoft at its finest.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by cmroanirgo »

dpark wrote: post #292
ohithereyou wrote: post #279

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I've not seen a single nag to upgrade to Mojave. I'm still on Sierra (and will likely move to High Sierra this weekend - I like to stay a major version behind for Mac software for stability's sake on my Mac Mini).

Maybe the upgrade nag was added in High Sierra.

Nope. I'm running High Sierra, and it's all tumbleweeds about Mojave

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by tomjen3 »

jammygit wrote: post #44

All I want is to be able to give companies my money in exchange for not being spied on, manipulated, or locked into some walled garden. I can't for my OS - I have to use free gnu/Linux because everyone else treats me like crap. Is my money not good enough for them? This is getting absurd

No. Because if you have money to spend, then your ad spots are worth more than the average. And if you are so rich you can afford to pay not to see ads, those spots goes up even more. If you are so rich you can afford to pay this increased rate, those goes up even more.

There used to be a time where ads on the internet were, if not outright illegal, then at least considered like spam is today. I am not sure we wouldn't be better of if we didn't go back to to those classifications.

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Post by tracker1 »

JadeNB wrote: post #282
stephenr wrote: post #221

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Fiasco?

> Fiasco? I don't know about the parent; but, as an MBP owner for almost 15 years, for me "fiasco" means "best-in-class keyboard and trackpad have become second- to third-rate." (Most complaints are focussed on the keyboard, and the Touch Bar's insistence on interfering with touch typing muscle memory; but I've found the trackpad has its own weird set of problems, at least on my machine.)

I think my old 2010 mbp (stolen in 2013) was probably my single favorite touchpad and keyboard for any laptop before or since. My current (late 2014) is okay, just not quite as good, and I don't like the newer ones at all... I use a physical keyboard at my desk and reducing the travel more and more just irritates me and slows me down.

May take a look at the Huawei Matebook X Pro, or it's successor next year. (Worries about chinese spying aside).

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by tracker1 »

eutropia wrote: post #95
jammygit wrote: post #44

All I want is to be able to give companies my money in exchange for not being spied on, manipulated, or locked into some walled garden. I can't for my OS - I have to use free gnu/Linux because everyone else treats me like crap. Is my money not good enough for them? This is getting absurd

I had to spend several days manually ripping out huge chunks of Win10 to get something resembling the usability of XP. That included removing all of the updating utilities, hosts-file blocking of microsoft servers, removal of most of the preinstalled apps, as well as disabling and deleting all of the scheduled tasks which try to re-install and re-enable those settings. All this trouble so I can play modern PC games..…

Other than using classic shell, I pretty much like the W10 toolbar. The harder learning curve is I still have many years of searching for X, when the UX is now in Y for a given setting. It's arguably in a better place now, just hard to re-learn.

As to linux gaming, a lot of effort has been made with Steam, another walled garden, but a nicer one. I just wish some of the UI/UX in linux would solidify a bit. I've been running elementary with some tweaks on my spare, but still not enough for my main desktop.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by tomjen3 »

rleigh wrote: post #252
shados wrote: post #229

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I'd expect more like a deep LinkedIn integration to facilitate recruiters...as much as the thought makes me cringe.

To be honest, if a tool could run a scan over all my github contributions, and then use that to find a really well matching job, that might be potentially very interesting. Finding a job which is a good match for your skills and interests is hard. If most of your contributions are public then making use of them would be potentially beneficial so long as it wasn't super creepy.

The problem with that is the same as every other time anybody is trying to exchange something for something else: sturgeons law. The greatest developers are not on the market and the companies worth working for don't need recruiters.

Ads can be great in a (very) few areas: nobody is going to talk about a new great tampon or condom. Heck most people haven't even heard about the menstural cup, but other than things humans feel really embarrassed talking about, exceptional products don't need ads, and neither do exceptional programmers or companies.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by jstankewicz »

marmaduke wrote: post #308
eutropia wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had to spend several days manually ripping out huge chunks of Win10 to get something resembling the usability of XP. That included removing all of the updating utilities, hosts-file blocking of microsoft servers, removal of most of the preinstalled apps, as well as disabling and deleting all of the scheduled tasks which try to re-install and re-enable those settings. All this trouble so I can play modern PC games..…

There’s a reddit sub dedicated to powershell scripts which automate this. The name escapes me but the hope does not

This one, perhaps? https://www.reddit.com/r/TronScript/
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