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Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by ska »

rleigh wrote: post #252
shados wrote: post #229

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I'd expect more like a deep LinkedIn integration to facilitate recruiters...as much as the thought makes me cringe.

To be honest, if a tool could run a scan over all my github contributions, and then use that to find a really well matching job, that might be potentially very interesting. Finding a job which is a good match for your skills and interests is hard. If most of your contributions are public then making use of them would be potentially beneficial so long as it wasn't super creepy.

How long do you think such a mechanism would exist before it became overrun by (semi-) automated attempts to game it?

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

inetknght wrote: post #285
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #269

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Theoretically, yes, realistically, not really. For all its talk of openness and freedom for the user, the Linux community has a remarkable amount of disdain for anyone who isn't a C greybeard. AppImage has already pretty much solved everything I want as far as application distribution. It is at least the third such implementation that has. However, the community refuses to embrace it and so very little software is di…

> the Linux community has a remarkable amount of disdain for anyone who isn't a C greybeard I feel like you're the one providing disdain simply by saying "greybeard". Please don't disrespect people who have lots of C experience. I've found plenty of non-C applications in Ubuntu's and Fedora's repositories though. I've found Python, Ruby, and Perl applications and developer tools (in addition to the obvious C and C++…

> I've found plenty of non-C applications in Ubuntu's and Fedora's repositories though. [etc.]

You've missed the point. I could go on for quite a while about what the point was, but ultimately it comes down to this: "You can fix it yourself!" isn't really true. Professional programmers who work on Linux for a living haven't even managed to fix a lot of its problems.

> It looks like it supports every major Linux distribution I've come across. Then what's stopping you from using it?

Nothing, except that hardly any applications are available as AppImages and they're a 3rd class citizen at best on all major distributions.

> Make sure to include source code for distributions to build their own version of the AppImage -- including any patches which might be necessary to tweak and support the distributions' different and unique environments.

The whole point of AppImage is that that's completely unnecessary. The only thing that really aught to be done is that file managers should display AppImage icons and not harass the user about double clicking one to run it. My point isn't that such things are holding me back, it's that such things are indicative of the community's attitude towards AppImage.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by eutropia »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #230
eutropia wrote: post #95

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I had to spend several days manually ripping out huge chunks of Win10 to get something resembling the usability of XP. That included removing all of the updating utilities, hosts-file blocking of microsoft servers, removal of most of the preinstalled apps, as well as disabling and deleting all of the scheduled tasks which try to re-install and re-enable those settings. All this trouble so I can play modern PC games..…

hosts-file blocking of microsoft servers I don't think that works, I'm pretty sure the networking stack bypasses the hosts file for Microsoft sites because it's a potential vulnerability.

So that's why I had so many extra things to firewall in glasswire!

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by robocat »

WorldMaker wrote: post #146
amyjess wrote: post #25

I currently use this on my Surface because it's more touch-friendly than Gmail's website, but it looks like I'll be moving on. Any recommendations for a touch-friendly (i.e. must be UWP) mail app for Windows?

The latest Gmail revamp is more touch-friendly than it used to be, especially in Edge (despite Gmail's increasingly obnoxious insistence that you should only use Chrome). The article suggests that the Mail app will never have ads for Office 365 users. Office 365 Home is often a good deal for a Surface owner anyway, as it boosts your OneDrive space, and gives you up to date copies of all the Office programs, and stuff…

> despite Gmail's increasingly obnoxious insistence that you should only use Chrome

Fuck Edge touch support - they don't support the event API used by Safari/Chrome, instead you need to use an MS specific touch API.

I support touch on IE11/Edge (because our business made a bet on Windows Phone) but I have wasted an obscene amount of time to do so (we have very few windows phone/laptop touch users).

I hate supporting Edge more than IE11 - weird bugs and continual problems with the debugger and touch support.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by marmaduke »

thrill wrote: post #217
inetknght wrote: post #178

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I resurrected my late 2012 Mac Mini recently and "upgraded" it to Mojave. I can't even SSH into the box. The SSH daemon accepts connections, firewall is off, and login sharing is enabled. But the daemon refuses my key, my password. I can't even figure out how to get it to display the reasons for the denied access. At least on Linux I can turn off the daemon, turn on logging, turn the daemon back on, and get somewhere…

SSHd is now very picky about permissions of the .ssh directory and underlying files and may quietly fail if they're not set properly.

very picky if you’re on a single user system. If you’re on a shared system, where admin has set default home permissions open, it makes complete sense to require .ssh to be 700.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by rkeene2 »

russdpale wrote: post #169
rkeene2 wrote: post #154

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AppFS is a package manager for Linux that exists and solves all these problems, except the "putting them on different disks", which it doesn't prevent you from doing but it doesn't really make any sense either. http://appfs.rkeene.org/

If its one thing I have learned about software development, its that you must account for people doing completely non sensical things. I knew a guy who had MS word 97, 2000, 03, and 07 all installed on the same machine, and he used all of them for various tasks. Insane? Most certainly, but welcome to humanity.

AppFS has no problem with that. The problem comes from keeping different packages on different disks -- since it caches them all into the same directory by default. It would be trivial to make it cache files from certain packages into different places as part of the configuration -- that's easy enough. The issues come into place for files that are shared (having the same SHA1) between packages, then you either have to duplicate the file or have some policy of searching for it.

A better approach, if you care about this, is simply to have a lifecycle policy where more recently used blocks live on the SSD and less recently used blocks move to slower storage (bcache can do this for you), or are deleted (this is a planned feature: http://appfs.rkeene.org/web/tktview?name=930821d0fb ).

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by wbond »

craftyguy wrote: post #206
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #116

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nVidia GTX 1080ti In addition to the performance degradation, nVidia and the kernel maintainers don't currently get along so I'd also have to deal with that.

Ah, yes. nvidia is a thorn. In other news, the AMD and Intel drivers are as good as, if not better, than their windows counterparts!

This, unfortunately is not as true as I wish it was. I bought an RX 560 and tried to install Ubuntu 18.04. It could not propery drive my 4k display that uses DP 1.2 MST. That display has been working fine with a few different cards on Mac and Windows since 2014 when I bought it.

I even tried the AMD pro drivers. Granted, the open source nvidia drivers couldn’t do it with a 1030 on 18.04 either, but the proprietary ones had no issue.

edit: I should note, the RX 560 runs fanless up to 60c on Windows, but the fans always spin on Linux.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by marmaduke »

eutropia wrote: post #95
jammygit wrote: post #44

All I want is to be able to give companies my money in exchange for not being spied on, manipulated, or locked into some walled garden. I can't for my OS - I have to use free gnu/Linux because everyone else treats me like crap. Is my money not good enough for them? This is getting absurd

I had to spend several days manually ripping out huge chunks of Win10 to get something resembling the usability of XP. That included removing all of the updating utilities, hosts-file blocking of microsoft servers, removal of most of the preinstalled apps, as well as disabling and deleting all of the scheduled tasks which try to re-install and re-enable those settings. All this trouble so I can play modern PC games..…

There’s a reddit sub dedicated to powershell scripts which automate this. The name escapes me but the hope does not

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by marmaduke »

rleigh wrote: post #277
megous wrote: post #267

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Combine github data with linkedin data to get connection of developers to companies, and use that? Not that I'm suggesting them to do it... :)

The main challenge would be the information asymmetry between both sides (as is already the case). It's one thing for the recruiter to be able to scan all your contributions. Would you as a potential recruit be able to do the same, and see what skills and techniques were /actually/ in use by the company. A tool which could generate an anonymised summary for both parties and compare them for mutual compatibility might…

But some of the recent changes in the GitHub profile like code contrib vs commit would already be enough to match against profiles for hire.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #265
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #254

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> I hate package managers as an application installation paradigm Flatpak has you covered, or at least, it's getting there pretty fast. You'll still need to manage debs for base system stuff but you can install most gui apps as flatpaks now.

If only it did. For one, its absolutely a package manager. You need a special tool to manage flatpaks. Also, flatpak has a lot of problems in my opinion, not the least of which is that it has no mechanism for installing to a different disk without creating an entirely new "installation", which in its terminology means a completely new dependency chain too. The "portals" idea is a pretty good one though, on the whole.

It's still a package manager, and it still has dependencies, but the dependency chain is "flat" such that it's always comprehensible and you'll never be stuck modifying large parts of your system to update one program. I see it as similar to Windows's Visual C++ and DirectX runtimes in that regard.

I hear you on installing to different disks, though. Appimages are also an option, but I've found they have a tendency to not actually work between different distros and system versions.

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