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Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

inetknght wrote: post #234
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #233

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't all of the dependencies also need to be installed to the same prefix? So I could end up with half the OS on there for one application?

When you stray from the beaten PATH (and LD_LIBRARY_PATH) then yes you can start encountering trouble. Most good tools provide the options for you to do that. If you want to start building from scratch then `configure` and `make` often have PREFIX (and flavors such as BINPREFIX, LIBPREFIX, etc). `cmake` has similar variables to control where it looks for dependencies. Other languages' tools undoubtedly do too. I high…

In other words, I can get what I want, which is very simple on Windows and Mac, in Linux by compiling things from source or otherwise jumping through a bunch of containerization hoops.

No thanks.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by staplers »

abhiminator wrote: post #64
_uhtu wrote: post #47

Amazon has lately been putting ads on prime video for other prime video shows. I have a feeling we're rapidly going towards most paid services having ads. Also, on prime video, occasionally, pressing the fast forward button won't skip the ad. I'm sure it's one of those "bugs" that just happens to force the user to do something the company wants but the user doesn't but I have a feeling it might just stop working all…

>we're rapidly going towards most paid services having ads. Cable TV model isn't dead after all.

Also means piracy won't be dying anytime soon.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by EduardoBautista »

Havoc wrote: post #227
EduardoBautista wrote: post #75

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There is still no evidence that they are reading your emails so it's not the same. I am fine with ads, just as long as they don't mine my data and follow me around.

>I am fine with ads, just as long as they don't mine my data and follow me around. Pretty much every ad platform out there does exactly that

Duckduckgo does not. Hacker News does not. There are many examples. Ads on blogs such as Daring Fireball and Coding Horror do not. I gladly whitelist these sites.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #8

Microsoft continues to demonstrate that it's worst enemy is itself. There's no way that throwing ads in the default Mail app is going to make them more money than it costs them in the long run.

The biggest problem is they are going to drive away their most influential customers with these policies.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #254
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #88

Dear Microsoft, As a vocal critic of the Linux Desktop, your horrifically misguided attempts to "improve" Windows since Windows 10 have so degraded the experience of using it that I am now only 2 reasons[0] away from switching anyway, so at least I don't have to pay for the privilege of using crappy software. I would ask you kindly to cease your endeavors to kill off the Windows Desktop and personal computing in gene…

> I hate package managers as an application installation paradigm Flatpak has you covered, or at least, it's getting there pretty fast. You'll still need to manage debs for base system stuff but you can install most gui apps as flatpaks now.

If only it did. For one, its absolutely a package manager. You need a special tool to manage flatpaks.

Also, flatpak has a lot of problems in my opinion, not the least of which is that it has no mechanism for installing to a different disk without creating an entirely new "installation", which in its terminology means a completely new dependency chain too.

The "portals" idea is a pretty good one though, on the whole.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by inetknght »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #261
inetknght wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you stray from the beaten PATH (and LD_LIBRARY_PATH) then yes you can start encountering trouble. Most good tools provide the options for you to do that. If you want to start building from scratch then `configure` and `make` often have PREFIX (and flavors such as BINPREFIX, LIBPREFIX, etc). `cmake` has similar variables to control where it looks for dependencies. Other languages' tools undoubtedly do too. I high…

In other words, I can get what I want, which is very simple on Windows and Mac, in Linux by compiling things from source or otherwise jumping through a bunch of containerization hoops. No thanks.

Unfortunately for now :)

One of the awesome things about Linux and it being open source is that if you don't like it then you can work to improve it.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by megous »

rleigh wrote: post #252
shados wrote: post #229

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I'd expect more like a deep LinkedIn integration to facilitate recruiters...as much as the thought makes me cringe.

To be honest, if a tool could run a scan over all my github contributions, and then use that to find a really well matching job, that might be potentially very interesting. Finding a job which is a good match for your skills and interests is hard. If most of your contributions are public then making use of them would be potentially beneficial so long as it wasn't super creepy.

Combine github data with linkedin data to get connection of developers to companies, and use that? Not that I'm suggesting them to do it... :)

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by milesvp »

Karunamon wrote: post #223
nepeckman wrote: post #168

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Steam support for linux is really going places. I mostly play indie games and older games (so nothing too resource intensive) and Steam's custom wine distribution has been handling them really well. I think I might wipe my windows partition in the next month or so.

I keep hoping I'll run into someone that's played around with that. If you're at the point where you can use their software and expect a random game to work more often than not, that's a massive leap forward for Linux on the desktop!

I've been playing doom 2016 using steam's wine offering, proton I think it's called. There currently aren't a lot of games the steam client beta supports, but it at least was painless to install and run. Hopefully they'll continue to support wine going forward, and start working with publishers to get more big budget games working.

Blizzard has officially stated they won't boot you (permanently, apparently there are occasional false positives) for using other wine offerings. I've been tempted to try to install Overwatch using Lutris as well (productivity be damned!).

I'm lucky in that I tend to prefer indie games, which are more likely to support steamos, but I'm certainly feeling optimistic about gaming on linux. I've found that I need to boot into my win7 partition less and less in the last year for games reasons.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

inetknght wrote: post #266
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In other words, I can get what I want, which is very simple on Windows and Mac, in Linux by compiling things from source or otherwise jumping through a bunch of containerization hoops. No thanks.

Unfortunately for now :) One of the awesome things about Linux and it being open source is that if you don't like it then you can work to improve it.

Theoretically, yes, realistically, not really. For all its talk of openness and freedom for the user, the Linux community has a remarkable amount of disdain for anyone who isn't a C greybeard.

AppImage has already pretty much solved everything I want as far as application distribution. It is at least the third such implementation that has.

However, the community refuses to embrace it and so very little software is distributed that way, just like the last two times.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by zokula »

thiagocsf wrote: post #253
untog wrote: post #195

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This is hardly new. Cable TV, magazines and newspapers have always cost money and had ads included.

I beg to disagree. I remember a golden age when cable tv was known to be better because it didn’t have any ads. Slowly they became as ad infested as open channels.

What are you talking about? cable TV has always had ads in the very beginning in the 1950s and 60s on through the 1970s when the first cable TV stations came out.
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