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Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by wbond »

maxxxxx wrote: post #33
jklinger410 wrote: post #14

Pay for Windows, get bloatware and ads. Pay for Mac OS...don't. Use Google, get everything for free subsidized by ads. Pay for Windows, still get ads? Hmmmmm

I am sure that providers with paid products like Netflix or HBO are watching closely. Until now the deal was that the customer pays to get rid of ads but maybe they can make the customer pay and still show ads?

I’m fairly sure Hulu has done this from the beginning, right? I never understood the allure of paying for Hulu but still seeing ads. I just went to check and apparently you can pay extra to get rid of ads.

Recently Amazon has been playing ads at the beginning of shows that are offered for free via Prime. I feel like I even saw them when I had bought a season of a show, but it is now offered for free via Prime.

So far it seems like buying shows and movies through Apple is ad-free.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by jahabrewer »

jimmies wrote: post #41

Anyone remembers just 5 years ago, Microsoft had a huge campaign about how everyone got "scroogled" by Google? Especially this ad about Google reading your mail to devliver you ads? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI1ominSL_c Oh, how the time has changed!

To be fair, from the article:

> although these ads are interest-based, they do not look at your emails to display ads based on data from your email.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by [deleted] »

tobyhinloopen wrote: post #54
jimijazz wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While OSX might be expensive it is such a pleasure to use!

I agree. OSX user here as well. It's the "least bad" option IMO if budget isn't much of an issue. If OSX wouldn't exist, I would likely try Linux, get sick of it, try Windows, get even more frustrated, and get back to Linux. It is very likely I'd be using ElementaryOS or Ubuntu Desktop in the end.

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Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by intopieces »

melling wrote: post #36
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #8

Microsoft continues to demonstrate that it's worst enemy is itself. There's no way that throwing ads in the default Mail app is going to make them more money than it costs them in the long run.

Microsoft has had 90% marketshare for 20 years now. You know who has demonstrated that they are their own worst enemy? Consumers. People vote with their pocketbook. Now you have to live with that result.

>People vote with their pocketbook

In this case, I don’t think that’s fair. A great number of people can’t devote the time to learning a new operating system or cannot afford a high priced OS X machine.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by EduardoBautista »

jimmies wrote: post #41

Anyone remembers just 5 years ago, Microsoft had a huge campaign about how everyone got "scroogled" by Google? Especially this ad about Google reading your mail to devliver you ads? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI1ominSL_c Oh, how the time has changed!

There is still no evidence that they are reading your emails so it's not the same. I am fine with ads, just as long as they don't mine my data and follow me around.

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by bobcallme »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #28
jklinger410 wrote: post #14

Pay for Windows, get bloatware and ads. Pay for Mac OS...don't. Use Google, get everything for free subsidized by ads. Pay for Windows, still get ads? Hmmmmm

Get Linux for free, still don't get ads.

Not true [1]. Ubuntu is full of recommendations for non-free / malicious "snaps" and has telemetry (opt out + remove a few packages).

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/7/17326184/firefox-ads-spons...

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by swebs »

jammygit wrote: post #44

All I want is to be able to give companies my money in exchange for not being spied on, manipulated, or locked into some walled garden. I can't for my OS - I have to use free gnu/Linux because everyone else treats me like crap. Is my money not good enough for them? This is getting absurd

Why not give your money to the Free Software Foundation or your distro's donation page to encourage software that respects your freedoms?

https://my.fsf.org/donate

Re: Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10

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Post by PascLeRasc »

aw3c2 wrote: post #2

So, my uncle needs a new computer and he needs Windows 10 on it. How can I make sure that he is not being spied on and psychologically manipulated by ads right from the beginning? Is there a professional version of Windows 10 with none of those shenanigans I keep hearing about?

Does he need 10? Windows 7 still works fine, so does Elementary OS if that works.
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