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Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

#101
I don't do any web development but I think this will be very interesting when they bring the Android development tools to Chrome OS.

There are some very nice Chromebooks out these days that have more than enough power to offer a decent-to-good Android development environment it just lacks an OS that can run the required tools out-of-the-box.

I hope to see a true developer Chromebook in 2019 :)

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

#102
I paired a Dell Chromebook 13 with SSH to a permanently on desktop for my senior year of college. Worked great: 12 hours of battery life, light, cheap laptop and the development environment was the same on the move or at home. Tmux sessions with Vim means I could keep my laptop in my backpack and pick up where I left off on the desktop. SSH tunnels allowed any web dev work to be painless too. I would recommend if you have a desktop and just want a cheap long battery life computer with decent build quality. Almost all my work could be done this way.

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

#103
What still pisses me off on this, is that even a flagship, great recent product like the Asus C302CA Chromebook (intel chip and all) is not supported. All of the drawbacks of the android ecosystem - inconsistent versions, inconsistent deployments of versions - but on my desktop. Yay.

I was really positive about ChromeOS, but this has soured me on it incredibly.

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

#104
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You'll probably never know exactly. Better be safe than sorry.

You could say that about Ubuntu or any other operating system. "Better safe than sorry" abused this way will lead to no more computers - not the worst future, but I'd at least be out of a job.

You can definitely use Ubuntu without it having to "phone home". That is probably not the case for Chrome OS.

By the way, interesting thing is that for Google employees, it is explicitly forbidden to use software that phones home (read that a while back, can't find the link, sorry).

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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That's the reality I feel every time I boot into Windows to be honest. I work at Google so I am definitely biased but candidly those OneDrive ads in Explorer pissed me off pretty badly, as does start menu ads, Cortana notifications, automatically installing Candy Crush, and so many other things. You can disable most of that, but then I hear there's still telemetry getting sent back to MSFT even after you disable ever…

For what's it worth, I have been using Linux as a side-OS since pre 2000, and only in the last two years has it become really good. It's now my main driver on all my machines and frankly I have started to prefer it. This has never happened in the ~20 years I have been using Linux and other OS. Linux went from "meh" to just as good pretty recently, imo. Furthermore, this is just a usability consideration. Don't forget…

Wayland is still a mess. And I can't share my screen via WebRTC in Wayland, and mixed DPI is still not as functional as Windows and Mac and ChromeOS are. I use Linux regularly, but I don't feel like it's really making much forward progress anymore.

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

#106

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That's all well and good, but doesn't answer the question. Why would I use Chrome OS rather than another Linux distro for web development? My Ubuntu instillation is also always updated and secure. Device drivers also just work. The android support sounds great for android development, not web development.

> Why would I use Chrome OS rather than another Linux distro for web development? You shouldn't. It's in Google's best interest to get people to use their products. It's in your best interest to avoid Google whenever you can.

:-) I love this answer

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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Interesting. Any advantage of using Chrome OS for Web development compared to just any plain Linux distro (e.g. Ubuntu)? Or, even more interesting, compared to MacOS? Because from the video, it feels as if Crostini is a second-class citizen on Chrome OS (all that talk about Linux in a container). Why choose Chrome OS at all?

Disclaimer I work at Google

My own personal reason is that I have never had an ideal experience running Linux on laptops.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy tinkering and it was fun when I was in school, but nowadays I don't have much time so if I want to develop something I don't want my time to be spent fixing technical difficulties.

With Chrome OS the main benefit to me is the same as running OS X or Windows: you don't have to worry about your stuff working.

I also personally really like Chrome OS for it's simplicity and speed but of course you could say I'm biased. Indeed I like it so much I transferred to work on Chrome OS a couple months ago.

Compared with OS X.. that really just depends on your preference. I have nothing bad to say about it and enjoyed using my MBP when I had one. I just like having a really lightweight OS but again that's really subjective and for many people the right answer is OS X! I'm just happy we have the choices now.

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the reality I feel every time I boot into Windows to be honest. I work at Google so I am definitely biased but candidly those OneDrive ads in Explorer pissed me off pretty badly, as does start menu ads, Cortana notifications, automatically installing Candy Crush, and so many other things. You can disable most of that, but then I hear there's still telemetry getting sent back to MSFT even after you disable ever…

For what's it worth, I have been using Linux as a side-OS since pre 2000, and only in the last two years has it become really good. It's now my main driver on all my machines and frankly I have started to prefer it. This has never happened in the ~20 years I have been using Linux and other OS. Linux went from "meh" to just as good pretty recently, imo. Furthermore, this is just a usability consideration. Don't forget…

My experience too, we've just started switched 100+ PCs at work over to Linux Mint as a result of this maturation - it's just plain better than Windows now, no ads, no upgrade ruining everything, no telemetry, no ignoring and resetting of user settings. Best of all: consistent software deployment via package management that actually works and does not include malware, adware and other janky sideloaded stuff.

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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Anecdote: I stopped using OSX for primary development about 7 months ago and started using a Pixelbook + Crostini exclusively. Par - Hassle free desktop experience on par with OSX - Password managers, music apps, etc available via Android appstore Advantages - Fast time to productivity because Crostini takes a few clicks, then apt-get everything - Native "File Manager" integration makes it painless to move files to a…

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Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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So it does everything that Linux does, but you can also send all your personal data automatically to google. Wow, what a value proposition!

Just pointing out that windows and Mac collect comparable amounts of personal information, especially if you want to use their app stores. Oh, and Ubuntu siphons data to Amazon. So - if you really want no one snooping around by default, you should be on a more obscure Linux distro, that so devs don't support out of the box. For instance, one can find a Spotify app for Ubuntu/Debain, but you'll have to struggle on Arc…

> Oh, and Ubuntu siphons data to Amazon.

Does it really?

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