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Re: Ask HN: I made $1.01 yesterday. What next?

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data URIs are not supported on IE. css sprites supported anywhere and quite common.

Wikipedia says that IE8 supports them to some extent. But you are right, you would need to build two solutions to support older browsers, too.

why do you need to implement two solutions if sprites is OK for this case? data url is great in some cases, for example generate images on client side but imho css sprites are optimal there.

Re: Ask HN: I made $1.01 yesterday. What next?

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OMG "it's made of people"! Yeah it's a mindblow when you realize this. But it's not made of people who spend 6 hours a night watching tv. There has never been a better time for creators, of all kind.

> But it's not made of people who spend 6 hours a night watching tv.

Where's the difference to all the YouTube junkies who spend hours watching YT?

Re: Ask HN: I made $1.01 yesterday. What next?

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Don't believe the notion that making 100 websites that earn $1 a day is easier than making 1 website that makes $100 a day. It's not. Create value, make users want to stick around, iterate, grow.

Oh no! I definitely want to look into making sure that this one is good enough before I look to make a second. I do have a million more projects I'd like to take on - but each of them has to play out to their maximum potential before I switch to the next. If this can make $1 in 1 day on an evening's work, how far can I get if it's actually a GOOD site? Feedback from where people see the areas of concern is useful. I'…

how far it gets its going to be related to how people are finding your site, and how much room you have to grow.

if everyone is coming in from search, it depends how many people are searching.

I have a few content sites that drive about $10CPM, but even with #1 organic ranking, I'm limited to about 1500 visitors a month. 95% of my traffic is from search. 99% of my revenue is from people that found my site from search.

generally, as far as adsense goes, the common wisdom is that repeat users do not drive advertising revenue. it's the search hoppers that are the ones that often click on the ads. making the site sticky doesn't necessarily mean more adsense revenue, and here is probably where other advertising mechanisms that require high number of impressions would start to come into play.

affiliate marketing might be something to look into as a supplemental as well, although i'm not sure what that is in your market.

Re: Ask HN: I made $1.01 yesterday. What next?

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Seems like the last the web needs is another half assed Flash games site.

Despite the -1 rank of the comment, I do appreciate the feedback.

The things we build aren't always about what the internet needs, but maybe there's some value in starting small and building it into something great.

I'm not trying to dominate the universe of flash game websites - but I I am utterly fascinated by the idea of earning my living and being completely in control of my own destiny.

In my background I've worked for a mega-corporation (Nortel Networks, they're like Cisco systems, only bankrupt) and I've worked as a public employee (high school teacher). Nowadays I work for a smaller 40 person company ... but I'm still not my own boss.

This is an entirely new concept to me. I can create value and sell it directly and I can do it according to my own rules...

I 100% appreciate that this is "just another half assed flash site". I just built it to see if I could. But it made $0.50 on day one and $1.01 on day two.

So maybe there's something here.

If this does fizzle, at least I'll have learned something. Whatever I do pick up from this experience, I will be able to take to my next project. If this one doesn't "take" then maybe my next one will.

Or maybe by sharing the experience with HN we'll all learn something. Maybe I'll make a contact with someone who's similarly minded and we'll team up to make a project that ends up being better than either of us could have done on our own.

Who knows?

You're 100% right though - i mean it - the internet does not need "yet another crappy flash games site" ... it's a hell of a lot better than a page-park though http://thegames.com/

Re: Ask HN: I made $1.01 yesterday. What next?

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Congrats on the site and getting started on a project. How are you driving visitors to the site currently?

http://imgur.com/kw2av :D ummm. ycombinator I read another comment about reddit / stumble / digg / etc... So I'll have to go there next. For today, once I get tag-navigation done (it's looking pretty sweet already) then I guess a reddit submission. Since I regularly read reddit I'll feel a little more comfortable with the community there. Hopefully they'll be as supportive as HN is :) I really do feel nervous about m…

ycombinator may be a good temporary boost of traffic while you're on the frontpage of HN but you'll need to look at a more sustainable way of generating traffic - this is where I struggle the most. I run an ecommerce company that does a moderate bit of traffic (around 70k uniques a month) - 70% of my traffic is PPC (Google, Yahoo/Bing) and the rest is done through organic optimization. My business has a very low repeat customer ratio due to our market (sorry can't explain this bit i don't want to share my company publicly). Here is what i've learned:

I fucking hate SEO. I've spent well over 100k hiring and firing contractors from around the world. I've worked with some of the biggest names in SEO down to the most unknown people in India. We spend a lot of time trying to manipulate search engines to work the way we want them and it's all a game. If i were in your position i'd focus around creating content people WANT to use and leverage communities like this to help figure out how to improve them so WE market the product for you (this isn't easy though - you have to be EXCEPTIONAL). General SEO/SEM tactics are good to know and practice, but i really believe the best/most sustainable approach to a successful site is creating something people actually want and are willing to tell their friends about. Don't let this bit of discourage you, create something great!

Re: Ask HN: I made $1.01 yesterday. What next?

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Dont make 100 websites. Optimize this one. SEO and compelling content. There are plenty sites that can help you with SEO if you Google for them. There was even someone in the community offering services pro-bono. But do also make your website more compelling/attractive. Integrate some value added service if they give you your email. Like a high scores page or newsletter. See if you can't make the games multiplayer and get some competition going.

Re: Ask HN: I made $1.01 yesterday. What next?

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Obligatory clickable: http://fstr.net

looks weird on opera. the enlarged preview for a game on mouseover gets too big for the grid, so that the entire next row is pushed back.

thanks :) I can't bear to even think about how it looks in IE.

I'm honestly thinking of just putting an

around the entire site.

Re: Ask HN: I made $1.01 yesterday. What next?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh no! I definitely want to look into making sure that this one is good enough before I look to make a second. I do have a million more projects I'd like to take on - but each of them has to play out to their maximum potential before I switch to the next. If this can make $1 in 1 day on an evening's work, how far can I get if it's actually a GOOD site? Feedback from where people see the areas of concern is useful. I'…

how far it gets its going to be related to how people are finding your site, and how much room you have to grow. if everyone is coming in from search, it depends how many people are searching. I have a few content sites that drive about $10CPM, but even with #1 organic ranking, I'm limited to about 1500 visitors a month. 95% of my traffic is from search. 99% of my revenue is from people that found my site from search…

I've got a site that gets ~10,000 uniques per month (www.area51.org), and I still have never found a way to make much money at it. Yes, I've got ads. And yes, I've thought about affiliate marketing. But I wish I could bust out of my boxed thinking and come up with some revenue model that's more compelling.

(On the other hand, the site is self-sustaining; I don't have to think about it much.)

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