Pretty much at the end of my 2008 Mac Pro rope. Along with repair-ability, the base and upgrade pricing is just getting out of control. With a high spec mac mini approaching 2k, I can only imagine what the new MacPro will end up being. I sure as hell am not spending $6000+ on one. Next machine will be a coffee lake Hackintosh, it really takes very little effort to install nowadays.
Apple’s T2 security chip blocks some third-party repairs of new Macs
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#12> “This could be an attempt to grab more market share from the independent repair providers. Or it could be a threat to keep their authorized network in line. We just don’t know.” Good grief. "Apple adds systems integrity hardware to reduce the risk of local compromise" becomes "Apple is out to destroy your repair business" because reasons.
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You have a (probably) $6k machine that is still giving you a workable system 10 years later - doesn't that tend to suggest something?
A 10 year old desktop PC with similar specs would have lasted just as long. I just upgraded my PC from 2008 (original Intel Core i7) to a Ryzen system this year, and a Mac Pro had much more power to begin with.
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#14> “This could be an attempt to grab more market share from the independent repair providers. Or it could be a threat to keep their authorized network in line. We just don’t know.” Good grief. "Apple adds systems integrity hardware to reduce the risk of local compromise" becomes "Apple is out to destroy your repair business" because reasons.
Both sentences can be true. They might even both be intentional.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
A 10 year old desktop PC with similar specs would have lasted just as long. I just upgraded my PC from 2008 (original Intel Core i7) to a Ryzen system this year, and a Mac Pro had much more power to begin with.
That's apples to oranges. A laptop includes many pieces of hardware you probably don't understand as part of your desktop PC (think keyboard, screen, loudspeakers, ...), is carried around all day, and sometimes suffers some abuse :)
Re: Apple’s T2 security chip blocks some third-party repairs of new Macs
#16This doesn’t seem like a very big deal. Unless I read it wrong this only applies to repairs that could interfere with the operation of the T2 security chip, but I’ve only ever had my Macs repaired by Apple or authorized third-parties when I couldn’t do it myself so maybe it’s just me not seeing the issue.
Even in Denmark where Apple doesn't have any officials stores, there are still plenty of small tech repair shops that replace phone screens, and from what I've noticed at least 50% of those are Apple Authorized Service Providers who are able to repair any Apple product and also provide the service free of charge if you are under warranty.
Re: Apple’s T2 security chip blocks some third-party repairs of new Macs
#17Pretty much at the end of my 2008 Mac Pro rope. Along with repair-ability, the base and upgrade pricing is just getting out of control. With a high spec mac mini approaching 2k, I can only imagine what the new MacPro will end up being. I sure as hell am not spending $6000+ on one. Next machine will be a coffee lake Hackintosh, it really takes very little effort to install nowadays.
That said, I'll probably always build my own just for the upgradeability and performance angle.
Re: Apple’s T2 security chip blocks some third-party repairs of new Macs
#18Pretty much at the end of my 2008 Mac Pro rope. Along with repair-ability, the base and upgrade pricing is just getting out of control. With a high spec mac mini approaching 2k, I can only imagine what the new MacPro will end up being. I sure as hell am not spending $6000+ on one. Next machine will be a coffee lake Hackintosh, it really takes very little effort to install nowadays.
FWIW, it takes a lot more engineering to squeeze high-end components into a tiny case. I would there to be a much lower form-factor tax to pay on a Pro. That said, I'll probably always build my own just for the upgradeability and performance angle.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
FWIW, it takes a lot more engineering to squeeze high-end components into a tiny case. I would there to be a much lower form-factor tax to pay on a Pro. That said, I'll probably always build my own just for the upgradeability and performance angle.
No one asked for a $10,000 small as humanly possible trash can. What pro user cares about how small their desktop machine is? All we wanted was the cheese grater with upgrade components. Unfortunately for them, I'll be building another machine this time around. Especially since I've moved all of my dev environments, and resource intensive tasks to PC.