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Apple’s T2 security chip blocks some third-party repairs of new Macs

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Pretty much at the end of my 2008 Mac Pro rope. Along with repair-ability, the base and upgrade pricing is just getting out of control. With a high spec mac mini approaching 2k, I can only imagine what the new MacPro will end up being. I sure as hell am not spending $6000+ on one. Next machine will be a coffee lake Hackintosh, it really takes very little effort to install nowadays.

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> “This could be an attempt to grab more market share from the independent repair providers. Or it could be a threat to keep their authorized network in line. We just don’t know.”

Good grief. "Apple adds systems integrity hardware to reduce the risk of local compromise" becomes "Apple is out to destroy your repair business" because reasons.

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Pretty much at the end of my 2008 Mac Pro rope. Along with repair-ability, the base and upgrade pricing is just getting out of control. With a high spec mac mini approaching 2k, I can only imagine what the new MacPro will end up being. I sure as hell am not spending $6000+ on one. Next machine will be a coffee lake Hackintosh, it really takes very little effort to install nowadays.

You have a (probably) $6k machine that is still giving you a workable system 10 years later - doesn't that tend to suggest something?

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Pretty much at the end of my 2008 Mac Pro rope. Along with repair-ability, the base and upgrade pricing is just getting out of control. With a high spec mac mini approaching 2k, I can only imagine what the new MacPro will end up being. I sure as hell am not spending $6000+ on one. Next machine will be a coffee lake Hackintosh, it really takes very little effort to install nowadays.

You have a (probably) $6k machine that is still giving you a workable system 10 years later - doesn't that tend to suggest something?

A 10 year old desktop PC with similar specs would have lasted just as long. I just upgraded my PC from 2008 (original Intel Core i7) to a Ryzen system this year, and a Mac Pro had much more power to begin with.

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This doesn’t seem like a very big deal.

Unless I read it wrong this only applies to repairs that could interfere with the operation of the T2 security chip, but I’ve only ever had my Macs repaired by Apple or authorized third-parties when I couldn’t do it myself so maybe it’s just me not seeing the issue.

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Pretty much at the end of my 2008 Mac Pro rope. Along with repair-ability, the base and upgrade pricing is just getting out of control. With a high spec mac mini approaching 2k, I can only imagine what the new MacPro will end up being. I sure as hell am not spending $6000+ on one. Next machine will be a coffee lake Hackintosh, it really takes very little effort to install nowadays.

You have a (probably) $6k machine that is still giving you a workable system 10 years later - doesn't that tend to suggest something?

Mine's a mid-2010 MBP, only paid $1600 new (later upgraded the memory and swapped to an SSD). It's still my main system eight years later. Unfortunately, I can't install newer versions of the OS. I'm stuck at no higher than 10.12(?), so now there's mainstream software I can't install because of OS version requirements.

Kind of a bummer since it's still a good machine. 8+ years is a pretty good run, but that doesn't mean I'm ready to replace it. I guess my point is, yeah, even if initially expensive, it's been a good value. I hope the new ones are similar...

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Pretty much at the end of my 2008 Mac Pro rope. Along with repair-ability, the base and upgrade pricing is just getting out of control. With a high spec mac mini approaching 2k, I can only imagine what the new MacPro will end up being. I sure as hell am not spending $6000+ on one. Next machine will be a coffee lake Hackintosh, it really takes very little effort to install nowadays.

You have a (probably) $6k machine that is still giving you a workable system 10 years later - doesn't that tend to suggest something?

I still have a $1.5K system doing the same. I'm pretty sure it suggests that after Moore's Law computers now last significantly longer than they used to.

Only major hardware improvement in that period is Nvidia's GTX 1060/1070/1080 series graphics cards and faster PCI based SSD storage. CPUs and memory have barely moved.

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Pretty much at the end of my 2008 Mac Pro rope. Along with repair-ability, the base and upgrade pricing is just getting out of control. With a high spec mac mini approaching 2k, I can only imagine what the new MacPro will end up being. I sure as hell am not spending $6000+ on one. Next machine will be a coffee lake Hackintosh, it really takes very little effort to install nowadays.

You have a (probably) $6k machine that is still giving you a workable system 10 years later - doesn't that tend to suggest something?

The 2008 MacPro was $3000 at the time, and was actually an outrageously good deal. A pair of the Xeon CPU's were roughly the same cost retail, nevermind the rest of it. Judging by the existing trash can one, it will be ridiculously overpriced this time around.

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You have a (probably) $6k machine that is still giving you a workable system 10 years later - doesn't that tend to suggest something?

Mine's a mid-2010 MBP, only paid $1600 new (later upgraded the memory and swapped to an SSD). It's still my main system eight years later. Unfortunately, I can't install newer versions of the OS. I'm stuck at no higher than 10.12(?), so now there's mainstream software I can't install because of OS version requirements. Kind of a bummer since it's still a good machine. 8+ years is a pretty good run, but that doesn't m…

You can definitely install a newer MacOS, they run fine. It's a 5 minute patch to the installer, and away you go. My 2008 has been running High Sierra without any issues.

http://dosdude1.com/software.html

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