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AMD’s Rome is indeed a monster

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Re: AMD’s Rome is indeed a monster

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For higher power parts, heat dissipation is the primary reason. Most of the high end CPUs are purely heat limited in terms of performance. A TDP of 90W is about the limit for CPUs using cheap cooling techniques, and adding ram would lower that by 10-30W.

If you interleaved the memory with the processing, wouldn’t it decrease the heat density, though, which afaik is the limiting factor? You can get rid of quite a lot more heat than that if it’s not in too small an area to conduct away quickly.

Processors also tend to run hot, while RAM is more reliable when cool. Much like some parts in human biology benefit from being outside of the core (enough to make it an evolutionary benefit even when it's quite an obvious defect due to vulnerability), having RAM in it's own cooling sub-domain makes sense, and since it's already out there the blade interconnect card design is space, cost, and cooling effective.

Re: AMD’s Rome is indeed a monster

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Looking forward to these chips but always have concerns for AMDs ability to execute consistently. Opteron, the original 'Sledgehammer' series was way ahead of Intel because Intel just couldn't bring themselves to put 64 bit features into their Pentium line, and AMD squirreled away that advantage by not following up, and having other issues with later spins of the Opterons. That said, this really does look like a pret…

AMD had enough time to learn that lesson. Let's hope they did.

Re: AMD’s Rome is indeed a monster

#23

Looking forward to these chips but always have concerns for AMDs ability to execute consistently. Opteron, the original 'Sledgehammer' series was way ahead of Intel because Intel just couldn't bring themselves to put 64 bit features into their Pentium line, and AMD squirreled away that advantage by not following up, and having other issues with later spins of the Opterons. That said, this really does look like a pret…

RAID 6 with 32 drives. All the things you would not do while the array is rebuilding.

Re: AMD’s Rome is indeed a monster

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Every time I see SemiAccurate I remember their love for AMD and their constant, unending hate for Nvidia: https://semiaccurate.com/2009/10/01/nvidia-fakes-fermi-board... I don't have any dog in this fight, SA is just a terrible news source.

They don't like Intel or Nvidia, but their facts tend to be mostly accurate. I wouldn't listen to any of their financial or market-share predictions since the market has remarkable inertia that disconnects it from technical factors.

I would say they are semi accurate.

Re: AMD’s Rome is indeed a monster

#26

Looking forward to these chips but always have concerns for AMDs ability to execute consistently. Opteron, the original 'Sledgehammer' series was way ahead of Intel because Intel just couldn't bring themselves to put 64 bit features into their Pentium line, and AMD squirreled away that advantage by not following up, and having other issues with later spins of the Opterons. That said, this really does look like a pret…

What would you do with such a system that is innovative and not just more of the same?!

Re: AMD’s Rome is indeed a monster

#27

Looking forward to these chips but always have concerns for AMDs ability to execute consistently. Opteron, the original 'Sledgehammer' series was way ahead of Intel because Intel just couldn't bring themselves to put 64 bit features into their Pentium line, and AMD squirreled away that advantage by not following up, and having other issues with later spins of the Opterons. That said, this really does look like a pret…

RAID 6 with 32 drives. All the things you would not do while the array is rebuilding.

I aware of the issues one can have with rebuilding a large raid array. It seems like you will always hit some parity issue upon reconstruction. What is the proper approach here?

Re: AMD’s Rome is indeed a monster

#29

Looking forward to these chips but always have concerns for AMDs ability to execute consistently. Opteron, the original 'Sledgehammer' series was way ahead of Intel because Intel just couldn't bring themselves to put 64 bit features into their Pentium line, and AMD squirreled away that advantage by not following up, and having other issues with later spins of the Opterons. That said, this really does look like a pret…

RAID 6 with 32 drives. All the things you would not do while the array is rebuilding.

Why, RAID6 can rebuild online, because it turns temporarily into a RAID5. Even RAID5 can be used while rebuilding, in read-only mode, because data from the remaining disks is sufficient (else rebuilding won't be possible).

Re: AMD’s Rome is indeed a monster

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Ive been really enjoying my dual epyc 64 core workstation. Looking forward to when I can upgrade to 128 cores. :)

Did you build that yourself? Do you know of any good vendors for this type of workstation? I know building it isn't that hard, but typically an employer doesn't want to go that route.
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