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AMD’s Rome is indeed a monster

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Re: AMD’s Rome is indeed a monster

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Every time I see SemiAccurate I remember their love for AMD and their constant, unending hate for Nvidia: https://semiaccurate.com/2009/10/01/nvidia-fakes-fermi-board... I don't have any dog in this fight, SA is just a terrible news source.

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Re: AMD’s Rome is indeed a monster

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Every time I see SemiAccurate I remember their love for AMD and their constant, unending hate for Nvidia: https://semiaccurate.com/2009/10/01/nvidia-fakes-fermi-board... I don't have any dog in this fight, SA is just a terrible news source.

They don't like Intel or Nvidia, but their facts tend to be mostly accurate. I wouldn't listen to any of their financial or market-share predictions since the market has remarkable inertia that disconnects it from technical factors.

Re: AMD’s Rome is indeed a monster

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Every time I see SemiAccurate I remember their love for AMD and their constant, unending hate for Nvidia: https://semiaccurate.com/2009/10/01/nvidia-fakes-fermi-board... I don't have any dog in this fight, SA is just a terrible news source.

But they were right in that case... I know it's a biased source but I've seen a lot of accurate info there in the past

Re: AMD’s Rome is indeed a monster

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Question, why is DRAM still packed separately?

A lot of reasons. It's physically quite large (multiple thousands of sq. mm. of silicon). Customers want different amounts of RAM so you could end up with a cartesian product explosion of SKUs. Customers want to upgrade RAM. System vendors and integrators don't want to give up more margins to the CPU.

Re: AMD’s Rome is indeed a monster

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Question, why is DRAM still packed separately?

For higher power parts, heat dissipation is the primary reason. Most of the high end CPUs are purely heat limited in terms of performance.

A TDP of 90W is about the limit for CPUs using cheap cooling techniques, and adding ram would lower that by 10-30W.

Re: AMD’s Rome is indeed a monster

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Question, why is DRAM still packed separately?

For higher power parts, heat dissipation is the primary reason. Most of the high end CPUs are purely heat limited in terms of performance. A TDP of 90W is about the limit for CPUs using cheap cooling techniques, and adding ram would lower that by 10-30W.

If you interleaved the memory with the processing, wouldn’t it decrease the heat density, though, which afaik is the limiting factor? You can get rid of quite a lot more heat than that if it’s not in too small an area to conduct away quickly.

Re: AMD’s Rome is indeed a monster

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Every time I see SemiAccurate I remember their love for AMD and their constant, unending hate for Nvidia: https://semiaccurate.com/2009/10/01/nvidia-fakes-fermi-board... I don't have any dog in this fight, SA is just a terrible news source.

The article has a lot of boasting about their exclusive scoop. That and their annoyingly watermarked images.
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