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Re: Sprint Is Throttling Skype, Study Finds

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Post by dsl »

callumjones wrote: post #39
dsl wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sprint is a telecommunications company, not just a mobile operator. They actually operate a 100G backbone between Australia and India (Perth to Mumbai via the SWE3 cable), so grand-parents question isn't that unreasonable. https://www.sprint.net/images/network_maps/full/Global-Globa...

Do they or is it just indirect via a consortium? Looking at this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEA-ME-WE_3 it doesn’t look to be directly managed by Sprint.

Almost all undersea cables are owned by consortiums that are responsible for installation and ongoing maintenance. Telecoms like Sprint or Level 3 buy fiber pairs and run the gear on each end.

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Post by danso »

labster wrote: post #34
WillPostForFood wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With Democrats in control of the House, they can pass Net Neutrality and put some pressure on the Senate. Or package in with a spending deal.

Haha, hilarious man. I'm looking forward to two years of total gridlock in the U.S. government. No one is in a mood to compromise on anything at all, least of all a fringe issue like Net Neutrality that motivates, like, fifty people to the polls.

On the contrary, net neutrality being a niche issue might make it more likely for politicians to agree on action. NN is a vague, new enough issue that it can be spun to the public in appealing ways. And the battle lines on which legislators are willing to die on haven’t yet been drawn. Think back to the SOPA bill back in 2013. It had massive bipartisan support, and a huge number of listed cosponsors [0], yet Congress folded like a chair on the day of the blackout protest. Not just because the protest was large, but because they had little to gain by sticking to their positions. Compare this to how Congress members change in no significant way from their campaign promises on gun and abortion issues.

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Members_of_the_U.S._...

edit: fixed typo/grammar

Re: Sprint Is Throttling Skype, Study Finds

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Post by supertrope »

filmgirlcw wrote: post #38

Sprint is legit garbage, but it is worth noting that even under Wheeler, Net Neutrality rules have never applied to mobile networks. It’s a big reason many of us were disappointed with the legislation even when it was passed. I’d rather have something than nothing, but mobile carriers have always been expent from NN.

FYI v1 of NN excluded cellular. Verizon et al sued and the appeals court ruled in their favor. v2 NN was based on a more solid legal foundation of common carrier classification and did not exclude cellular. Thus VZ got tougher rules for their trouble. Until of course Trump won and the FCC reversed itself. NN was a FCC rule, not legislation.

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Post by dawnerd »

filmgirlcw wrote: post #38

Sprint is legit garbage, but it is worth noting that even under Wheeler, Net Neutrality rules have never applied to mobile networks. It’s a big reason many of us were disappointed with the legislation even when it was passed. I’d rather have something than nothing, but mobile carriers have always been expent from NN.

Tmobile made this clear to me too when I complained about their older zero-rating policy at the time. It was highly unfair to smaller companies without the means to implement their standards for video.

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Post by dragonwriter »

filmgirlcw wrote: post #38

Sprint is legit garbage, but it is worth noting that even under Wheeler, Net Neutrality rules have never applied to mobile networks. It’s a big reason many of us were disappointed with the legislation even when it was passed. I’d rather have something than nothing, but mobile carriers have always been expent from NN.

> Sprint is legit garbage, but it is worth noting that even under Wheeler, Net Neutrality rules have never applied to mobile networks

This is simply false.

In the 2010 Title I regs, much lighter net neutrality rules were applied to mobile broadband than were applied to fixed broadband; in the 2015 Title II regs essentially the same rules applied to fixed broadband were applied to mobile.

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Post by toomuchtodo »

dawnerd wrote: post #44
filmgirlcw wrote: post #38

Sprint is legit garbage, but it is worth noting that even under Wheeler, Net Neutrality rules have never applied to mobile networks. It’s a big reason many of us were disappointed with the legislation even when it was passed. I’d rather have something than nothing, but mobile carriers have always been expent from NN.

Tmobile made this clear to me too when I complained about their older zero-rating policy at the time. It was highly unfair to smaller companies without the means to implement their standards for video.

T-mobile customer here who supports zero rating. Their standards are extremely straight forward to implement to zero rate, and there is minimal burden to implement. This was my experience simply as a facilitator to enable a public radio station I enjoy to be zero rated.

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Post by Paraesthetic »

i_feel_great wrote: post #23

Australia India Skype has become awful for us in the last 6 months or so. Does anyone know if this is related?

Yes, something in india is limiting your connection most likely. Whether it be network speeds or something else, the servers in Australia are super fast

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Post by KKKKkkkk1 »

qyz721 wrote: post #37

Using a SIM card on a recent trip to Mexico, where net neutrality was never a thing, was really interesting. Cell service plans come with separate tariffs for regular data and "social" data, which works only in the walled garden of Facebook, WhatsApp, Snapchat, Insta, etc., and the "social" data is much cheaper. Even though the positive reinforcement was not as draconian as stuff like this, where they're obviously tr…

Sounds like the mobile companies got Facebook to subsidize consumers' phone bills. Is that good or bad for everyone involved?
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