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Re: Sprint Is Throttling Skype, Study Finds

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Post by dsl » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 5:15 AM UTC

raincom wrote: post #27

i_feel_great wrote: post #23

Australia India Skype has become awful for us in the last 6 months or so. Does anyone know if this is related?

Sprint is a mobile network operator in the states. I don't think it is related to your issue.

Sprint is a telecommunications company, not just a mobile operator. They actually operate a 100G backbone between Australia and India (Perth to Mumbai via the SWE3 cable), so grand-parents question isn't that unreasonable.

https://www.sprint.net/images/network_maps/full/Global-Globa...

Re: Sprint Is Throttling Skype, Study Finds

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Post by sublupo » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 5:18 AM UTC

aberoham wrote: post #17

My Zoom meetings via CenturyLink have become progressively worse since Net Neutrality bit the dust. Anyone else feel the same?

I never read the text of the law, but I was told that a part of removing net neutrality, companies would have to say what they were throttling. Is that not the case?

Re: Sprint Is Throttling Skype, Study Finds

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Post by metildaa » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 5:18 AM UTC

rhexs wrote: post #20

aberoham wrote: post #17

My Zoom meetings via CenturyLink have become progressively worse since Net Neutrality bit the dust. Anyone else feel the same?

I've had Centurylink for years (fiber and DSL) and they consistently seem to throttle most video sites. Netflix/youtube has always been hit or miss. If you ask about this on reddit or dslreports you immediately get shills claiming that they would never do that / it's impossible. Weird. Using a VPN always fixes the issue.

Have you compared IPv4 versus IPv6 performance? Centurylink seems to have much better peering via IPv6 (still a bit slow to certain destinations though), in part because they only peer with Hurricane Electric and other non-Tier 1's for IPv6.

Re: Sprint Is Throttling Skype, Study Finds

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Post by labster » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 5:24 AM UTC

WillPostForFood wrote: post #28

brownbat wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another agency, the FCC, was founded on the premise that we need to ensure some communicators don't degrade the communications of others unintentionally. Spectrum needs management. It's funny we lack the same conviction when ITCs actively degrade each other...

With Democrats in control of the House, they can pass Net Neutrality and put some pressure on the Senate. Or package in with a spending deal.

Haha, hilarious man. I'm looking forward to two years of total gridlock in the U.S. government. No one is in a mood to compromise on anything at all, least of all a fringe issue like Net Neutrality that motivates, like, fifty people to the polls.

Re: Sprint Is Throttling Skype, Study Finds

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Post by j45 » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 5:26 AM UTC

Since Skype left its p2p roots, has it ever had enough bandwidth?

Re: Sprint Is Throttling Skype, Study Finds

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Post by jcims » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 5:31 AM UTC

rhexs wrote: post #20

aberoham wrote: post #17

My Zoom meetings via CenturyLink have become progressively worse since Net Neutrality bit the dust. Anyone else feel the same?

I've had Centurylink for years (fiber and DSL) and they consistently seem to throttle most video sites. Netflix/youtube has always been hit or miss. If you ask about this on reddit or dslreports you immediately get shills claiming that they would never do that / it's impossible. Weird. Using a VPN always fixes the issue.

The YouTube situation with CenturyLink used to be laughably bad. It’s gotten a little better as of late (10mbps DSL in Ohio), but VPN is still the way to go.

Re: Sprint Is Throttling Skype, Study Finds

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Post by qyz721 » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 5:33 AM UTC

Using a SIM card on a recent trip to Mexico, where net neutrality was never a thing, was really interesting.

Cell service plans come with separate tariffs for regular data and "social" data, which works only in the walled garden of Facebook, WhatsApp, Snapchat, Insta, etc., and the "social" data is much cheaper.

Even though the positive reinforcement was not as draconian as stuff like this, where they're obviously trying to dissuade use, it was still pretty creepy.

Re: Sprint Is Throttling Skype, Study Finds

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Post by filmgirlcw » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 5:43 AM UTC

Sprint is legit garbage, but it is worth noting that even under Wheeler, Net Neutrality rules have never applied to mobile networks. It’s a big reason many of us were disappointed with the legislation even when it was passed. I’d rather have something than nothing, but mobile carriers have always been expent from NN.

Re: Sprint Is Throttling Skype, Study Finds

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Post by callumjones » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 5:47 AM UTC

dsl wrote: post #31

raincom wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sprint is a mobile network operator in the states. I don't think it is related to your issue.

Sprint is a telecommunications company, not just a mobile operator. They actually operate a 100G backbone between Australia and India (Perth to Mumbai via the SWE3 cable), so grand-parents question isn't that unreasonable. https://www.sprint.net/images/network_maps/full/Global-Globa...

Do they or is it just indirect via a consortium? Looking at this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEA-ME-WE_3 it doesn’t look to be directly managed by Sprint.

Re: Sprint Is Throttling Skype, Study Finds

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Post by toast0 » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 5:59 AM UTC

metildaa wrote: post #30

bitexploder wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Use Zoom a lot. Haven’t noticed anything. Have Fiber if it matters.

Centurylink has mediocre peering via IPv4, but decent peering via IPv6 (which seems to be caused by peering with Hurricane Electric on IPv6 only).

I've noticed they don't seem to interconnect very effectively at the Seattle exchange at least for IPv4, I'll have to try v6 as well; thanks for the tip. in v4, I see a lot of things like go through Seattle to San Jose or Chicago and then back to Seattle. :(