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Re: Georgia’s secretary of state posts personal details of absentee voters online

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The phone book didn't tell you that someone was an absentee voter.

And it didn't include their voter registration number.

What exactly would the use of that be? I have not the slightest idea what mine might be. It wouldn't surprise me at all if I have several, as I have registered in several different towns across multiple states over the years, and I don't have a lot of confidence that those records are cross-audited and resolved.

Re: Georgia’s secretary of state posts personal details of absentee voters online

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I worked at the polls in California for the first time this year. We were required to post a public list of everyone who voted including their address. It's posted on the outside of the polling place for anyone to review if they so choose. The point of anonymous voting is to ensure that the voter's choices are secret, not to conceal the fact that someone voted. Even in Afghanistan where voting can cost your life, pur…

What I don't get is that the state tracks party affiliation and publishes it. This information should not be public or even better not tracked.

The notion that the state of Georgia tracks party affiliation is false. Georgia Does not have party registration. the only thing it tracks is which party ballot you pull in a primary election. You can make some inferences about party affiliation by looking at the voter's history....but that is not always a reliable indicator of true party affiliation.

Re: Georgia’s secretary of state posts personal details of absentee voters online

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Just this Monday I sent email to 162,883 Floridians who had no record of having voted before: https://enki.org/2018/11/07/encouraging-people-to-vote/

The Florida data set which I requested has the same kind of information about absentee votes and physical addresses.

I am wondering if this kind of data will become less public.

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Great comment. I think this is an underappreciated trend. Technology is enabling actions that were previously unfathomable, due to limited resources and circumstantial practicalities. Modern systems are much more powerful (in certain ways), enabling potential injustices that no one ever considered possible, and thus of course made no effort to protect against. We are only beginning to consider all of the ramification…

I just got a $136 ticket from a stoplight camera for failing to Completely Stop at an intersection where there were no other cars for at least 1 mile in any direction, and made a right turn on red at about 3mph. It is serviced by a company 6 states away. Automated injustice is very alive today.

I am waiting for these devices to be declared unconstitutional. Many states already have.

Re: Georgia’s secretary of state posts personal details of absentee voters online

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Look what some others are doing with this publicly available information: https://freebeacon.com/politics/dems-warn-multiple-states-we...

This publicly available information is an excel spreadsheet with names and addresses of absentee voters in the midterm.

The article mentions two specific dangers about absentee voter lists: targeting unoccupied properties and-- related-- discouraging the absentee vote on the next election. That and the lack of ToS meant that posting this list was a bad idea.

I followed your link but didn't find any examples of wrongly posting gratis downloadable absentee lists. Instead I read examples of problems with Democrats attempting to shame people into voting based on publicly available (though not gratis downloadable) data.

That is a different issue than giving the public immediate access to absentee voting lists the day after an election. We don't need links vigilantly posted from "the other side" about a different issue to remind us that people do bad things all across the political spectrum. Please save them for a time when a poster claims that Democrats take data protection much more seriously than this. (I.e., please don't ever post them.)

Re: Georgia’s secretary of state posts personal details of absentee voters online

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From the perspective of an Australian where voting is compulsory and something like 98% of those eligible actually vote: it should have been a list of the people who DIDN’T vote with a wtf!

More to the point, we have very clear rules and laws on the release and use of the electoral role details:

https://www.aec.gov.au/Enrolling_to_vote/About_Electoral_Rol...

And anyone has the option of removing themselves from the roll, if they don't want their neighbours to see where they live, where:

> having my residential address shown on the publicly available roll places the personal safety of myself or members of my family at risk...

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> “State law requires the public availability of voter lists, including names and address of registered voters,” she said in an email. > It’s little surprise that the way Kemp’s office approached confirming absentee ballots was met with anger. “While the data may already be public, it is not publicly available in aggregate like this,” It's interesting how so many laws are predicated on limited resources. Ie, all name…

We are also way more sensitive about our personal information than we used to be for some reason. When I was a boy, the local newspaper published the previous day's hospital admissions and discharges every day. At some point they stopped doing it, and now we have HIPAA which would probably result in huge fines for doing the same thing.

Re: Georgia’s secretary of state posts personal details of absentee voters online

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great comment. I think this is an underappreciated trend. Technology is enabling actions that were previously unfathomable, due to limited resources and circumstantial practicalities. Modern systems are much more powerful (in certain ways), enabling potential injustices that no one ever considered possible, and thus of course made no effort to protect against. We are only beginning to consider all of the ramification…

I just got a $136 ticket from a stoplight camera for failing to Completely Stop at an intersection where there were no other cars for at least 1 mile in any direction, and made a right turn on red at about 3mph. It is serviced by a company 6 states away. Automated injustice is very alive today.

So you ran a red light? Everyone has a justification for their own behavior

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Everyone used to have a printed telephone book with almost everyone's name and address. There are lots of public record search sites. Names and addresses are not hard to find. What's the big deal?

Privacy derangement syndrome is big now. People even question license plates.

Well, given that WHOIS information is sufficient to start a social engineering attack, people are rightfully concerned.
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